Out of context it sounds like I’m attacking your character.
Within context, it looks very much like you cut my statement into pieces and then picked one expressly sharp bit to pounce on, then decided to get mad about it.
Damn, so we agree, and Berbers had an expressed reason to be picked? Who’d’ve thunk.
Depends on when you want to strike. Celts all-in is early castle age, Berbers all-in is usually later and can have a strong economy behind it. The 3-TC → Hoang Rush doesn’t exist, really.
They have faster walking villagers, which slightly improves farming rate, walling speed, and durability against raids. They are not generic. The bonuses are not prominent but they aren’t zeroes.
This snip is a thread unto itself, but what you’re expecting out of the M@A is dependent on your opponent and the gamestate. The meta has popularized M@A archer but M@A to secure your own map or to pressure greedy defensive play with M@A towers is still a thing.
If you send your own militia forward and your opponent decides on doing the same thing, and you have barracks on different angles (late scouting can do that) you’ll have an advantage on Berbers as a result of the speed bonus. That’s a simple example where the speed makes a difference, and it’s well away from the only example.
Funny enough, I never claimed that they were, I said it was weird that nobody else thought they were. Factually speaking, if we agreed Berbers were “A” tier (which I doubt) then you’d naturally expect the spread of ratings to situate them sometimes in S-tier, usually in A-tier, sometimes in B-tier. Instead, they’re pretty much universally slotted in B-tier with a few notable exceptions, which is extremely odd to me given how much of a problem matchup they are for some of the best civs in the game.
It was you who insinuated, due to my defense of their strengths and indication of their potential, that I had announced I had placed them in S-tier. I’m just surprised they’re rated so low by the plurality of players despite being so strong.
I mean, you’ve assumed everything else, might as well ask. What, exactly, have I convinced myself of? I think you may have convinced yourself of something and you’ve failed to properly evaluate it.
They are still strictly better than Khmer, they were when I said it, they’re still better now, and they’ve gotten better since then.
We’ve been over this, the Malay can do what the Khmer can do, better, and cheaper. I don’t need to convince anyone of this, those that catch on and figure out what’s what get to be on the side of the argument that looks smart when all is said and done. Still can’t believe they keep buffing it. Thanks for the callback. Stop buffing Malay, devs. They’ll get the blindfolds off eventually.
K. So you agree with my point, and spent 33 lines (save quotes) blustering about it. Great.