they… they weren’t conquered?
Afghanistan very famously wasn’t conquered. Neither was Persia obviously. Russia just began incorporating parts of Uzbekistan late into the 19th century and it wasn’t all of it.
Kazakhstan was incorporated into the Russian Empire mid 19th century, but if that’s your metric to not include them, boy do I have bad news about Poland for you…
Chechen is a good idea？They fight with Russia for a long time，although they are not from Central Asia.
For Minor Civilization are really good candidate.
My friend,why not have Chechen?They also fight with Russia for a long time,they worth to be a revolution civ.And Chinese may have weiyuanjiangjun Mortor?
btw obviously im super pro persia.
afganistan, personally i dont want them, also they would deff be an infantry civ.
also my point wasn’t nessecarily conquered, but relegated, in the 1200s Mongolia conquered large parts of eurasia until they reached Japan in the east, India in the south and Poland in the west. by the 1600s these places just weren’t important anymore, with relatively small populations and ever shrinking geopolitical influence.
I have a plan for this map but for tomorrow (today but morning X D).
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Dunno what shrinking geopolitical influence you’re talking about. Like I don’t even know how to explain that Kazakhstan nowadays is the size of pretty much all Central Europe. They, at the least, had more power projection than the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth during its heyday, nevermind the other civs.
Size is don’t real power 
Quality is more influence.
In my opinion, some Central Asian stuff as a new revolution for the Russians would be nice, like Kazakhstan.
We have revolutions based on minor civs like the Maya (Mayans) and Indonesian (old Sufis).
This new revolution could be based on Tengri and/or current Sufis, like making every shipment gift Tatar archers and Qizilbashes etc.
Tatars civ !!!
They civ can represent a Turkic and Mongolic peoples from Central Asia + Crimea.
What’s… I don’t even get it, why not actually make a civ that’s people from Central Asia?
I don’t get it, what’s wrong with Kazakhs.
Songhai completely disintegrated by 1591 so it would be almost as bad as Aztecs.
A Mandinka civilization would be a better choice for the region. They could represent the Malian rump state, Bambara Empire, and Wassoulou Empire. They’d have a similar army structure to Songhai and also fought the Moroccans. They also tried to ally with the Portuguese for protection against the Songhai and eventually were conquered by the French.
im sorry what now.
no they didn’t
its a large territory but even today only about 19 million people live in the country. size rarely dictates how important a country is, population and how wealthy and organized they are is really what matters in most cases, which tend to benefit smaller more densely populated countries.
i have no clue how you came to this conclusion, but its just not right.
owning a dessert doesn’t make you important.
We still lack Greece as a revolutionary for Ottomans, then Greece can revolt again to Byzantines. Similar to that of Yucatans to Mayans. Complete with new units and cards.
In my opinion, we should give priority to Persia because this DLC allows us to obtain a map of the Middle East region. Currently, we do not have any maps of this region
we do have a couple, including fertile crescent, but i agree Persia is one the major missing pieces from the game, and some more nice fauna to look at is never bad.
My advice is no more new civs, just polish existing ones.
There was room for new civilizations when the game was out. Now there are 22 civs. If they continue to add more civs I will think they just want money and don’t care the quality of the matches at all.
Fix bugs and glitches everywhere first please .
I would rather have greeks as a separate civ also want to see the Armenians as a separate civ in the game
It doesn’t have to be a sub series. AoE5 could easily be a victorian era game. 1814 to 1918 type thing.
I disagree. The Commonwealth was a major player in Europe during their Golden Age, even when they had to fight several military powers of Europe at their respective peaks (Ottomans, Sweden, Russia, etc.)
Actually the opposite, the core of the Durrani army was the cavalry.
