True. This is because the late game does not favor them, and treaties are usually late game.
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i just wrote a similar post they are INSANE
cause youāre playing like an noob haha
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Want to beat Japan? Learn how to use artillery. Japanese are super weak against artillery. Japan rather need buff in treaty.
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You mean Mongolian Army?
First, itĀ“s no 1.40 seconds to retrain them, i donĀ“t know why you keep repeating it, i donĀ“t know if you only play in maps with Cheyenne or something but their train time is 100 sec and i donĀ“t know the exact time with upgrades but it must be like 40 sec at least but maybe more. And second, have you played japanese? I think a lot of the ones that complain about them would stop for the most part if they only play them, cause itĀ“s not as easy as it may seem, i would say it would be good if you could play some day with them and play against a china main for example, iĀ“m also sure that china has the advantage here, so i would say you try it and then come back to tell us what happened xd
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They not only occupy 2 spaces extra in your deck but also takes 8 pop so itĀ“s not that worth it reallyā¦
I never use daimyo to build army except Tokugawa for making morutaru And flaming arrows.Moreover good Japanese players will have only Tokugawa in their deck. Those who are too much dependent on daimyos for making army are eventually killed by dragoon type units. Only used Tokugawa and 1 daimyo from age up to buff nearby units like missionary for Spain and rest be dependent on barracks and Stables.After an update the barracks can have similar army producing speed as daimyos. Moreover you shouldnāt forget about Sweden when comparing with Japan.
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I am Japan main and I really afraid of Playing against Chaina and Lakota. I stand nowhere in front of a good Chinese players unless I use hatamotos. But Chinaās endless rss gathering is insane which makes me afraid of them.
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It is 1 minute and 40 second = 100 second (Daimyo | Age of Empires Series Wiki | Fandom) without upgrades wich is already a joke time for something that is supposed to punish you but it dosenāt, if it is less it is even worse. I played Japan and again as i said at medium level of skill and medium low/APM they are just broken and are easy to win with for the reason i stated above. Iām not asking to nerf everything of Japan or to kill them i perfectly knew they have their weakness but Daimyo are just wrong by design and they are cheese thatās all.
Daimyos canĀ“t run while creating units, they just stop moving and they are like that for at least 15 sec when they are quite vulnerable.
You can use a lot of Naginatas and samurai naginatas kill their normally biggest army wich is the CKN or AQBSR and only worry about keshiks and Qiang pikeman, but you can make samurai cause it counters both of them, and if he makes the other option wich is mongolian army then is pure cav wich is better with samuraiā¦ but still is not advantageous to be japan vs china
Mmm actually thatĀ“s a long time, because they also have to go from the shogunate to the battlefield and the shogunate tends to be at the back or center of the base, so for a unit that provides some NEEDED stuff for japan army is quite punishable, because itĀ“s not just faster train time they are missing, is also auras wich are very neededā¦ I donĀ“t think they are that hard to counter or punish so i donĀ“t think they should nerf them or something but i do agree with the remove of cheesy stuff and even if i donĀ“t see daimyos cheesy i sometimes see running in a little space between walls with shogun and creating 10 morutarus in the back of the base to destroy factories kind of chessy xd
So is sneaking a few petards and blow up factories. Thereās always going to be cheese, and the counter to it is simple: pay attention to the minimap.
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Yeah, i mean, i donĀ“t like petards either but i donĀ“t call them OP or something, i just donĀ“t like but i donĀ“t complain and say it should be nerfed.
Samurai are not cost effective and chuakunnu can kill them easily. Nagis are fine but using samurai will drain Japan even more. And after the latest patch, Japan can have only 30 livestock on their shrines which is the worst part.
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The only nerf I would give its block morutarus to batches of 5 instead 10, they are too powerfull and having the shogun training them in front of your base is anoying.
Well, samurai are only not cost effective if you donĀ“t macro them well, wich sometimes is hard and takes a lot of attention, but they can be very good; they do die easily to CKN but thatĀ“s why you have nagis, they absorb all the CKN damage so well and kill the CKN in seconds, and if you are worried about draining because of samurai itĀ“s not a big deal cause youĀ“re not going to use them a lot, itĀ“s like 60% nagis or more and 40% samurai or less, but still is pretty hard vs chinese
I think the best way to kill China is Ashi+Nagi+flaming arrow+ morutaru or else use Nagi+ hatamoto
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