Well, You are slavs turks and magyars, they do have some interesting history un those years.
But i don’t know if they should be added or not… there many civs that could be added and no all Will be in the game
There are already too many European civilizations that ppl from outside of Western countries would not recognize their differences.
My suggestions for non-European civs would be:
- Inuit (North America)
- Omani (Asian/African)
- Nubians (African)
- Zimbabwe (African)
- Siam (Asian)
- Somali (African)
- Moravids (African): yes these are a subgroup of Berbers but they are as different as Italians and Sicilians.
- Tubu (African)
- Zanzibar (African/Asian)
Albanians are not slavic and they too fought the ottomans but I dont see anyone asking for them.
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Probably because they are not as well known.
I for one did learn more about Albanian history by studying the Ottoman invasions into the Balkans and Central Europe. Besides that period (15th century) they do not seem to have much “empire-ness” to qualify for Age of Empires 2.
With the exception of the Nubians, I do not think that any of your suggested civs will have enough qualifications to work in AoE2:
Siam (medieval Thailand) is already represented by the Burmese (especially by the Monastery Bonus).
Somali are cousins of the Ethiopians, and the latter already is in the game.
Moravids, like you mentioned, are mainly Berbers. I think that it would be very difficult to justify them when Berbers already exist (I am happy to hear your arguments though in adding Moravids, if you got any). Sicilians at least are “Italified Normans” and not actually “Italians”, ethnically speaking. The Normans of Sicily would over time wear off their Norman/Norse heritage and become more like the rest of the Italian peoples, but in the medieval ages, they were different enough.
And the Inuit, Omani, Zimbawe, Tubu, and Zanzibar peoples sadly, are not as well documented in their “medieval” histories. And they largely remained as isolated hunter-gatherer/Stone Age peoples until the Age of Exploration and Age of Colonization, which is more in line with AoE3 than AoE2.
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The answer is yes they are
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That’s why I made this disclaimer.
Other people already posted good ideas on those.
Not really but I think those aren’t as important.
The Polish are first more important than the other two and second very distinct from them. Just look at a medieval map from 1000-1500AD and see how big Poland is compared to so many other civilisations in the game. After 1500AD it gets even crazier because they become the biggest country in Europe when they annex Lithuania.
It’s like saying we have the Franks we don’t need to add the Teutones or the British, they are covered by that.
Or better saying the Tatars in the game are in nowadays Russia so they are covered by the Slaves.
The Slaves are the Rus (they literally speak Russian in the game) and they are the ancestors of both Russians and Ukrainians. The Ukraine is modern country, they weren’t a thing back than.
The Scottish and the Irish are culturally very close. The Celts in the game are a meme though. They are based on a movie and not on reality. Their Unique Unit should be re skinned to look less 0AD and more 1000AD
Slaves are even farther away from them then from the Polish. You have no idea about Eastern Europe, do you?
We have the Byzantines in the game we don’t need to Portuguese.
The Poles could be used to represent them but it’s not the same.
The Hussitians are something unique and interesting and should be represented in the game.
China is by far the biggest civilisation in the game. All of Europe combined had a lower population and less economy than China. China was also not united for most of the Period.
The Mongols where much smaller population wise and their Empire didn’t last a few centuries. No comparison to China that is essentially a continent of it’s own.
So we should remove the Gothes and Huns from the Game? And also the Celts I guess.
The Burgundians are much much more like the Franks than the Polish are like the Russians.
lol wrong.
We know so much more about China, especially about the early Middle Ages. We know so little about European Early Middle Ages. There is a reason why it’s called the Dark Age. There are even periods where we know little about the Byzantine Empire.
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Somalis are the biggest enemies and haters of the Ethiophians, similar to Burmese-Thai relations. They don’t cover each other lol. Somalis and Ethiophians have more differences between each other than Franks and Teutons
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Guys, please stop. I think this is the most frequent mistake an AoE player makes: they tend to believe that just because something is in the game, then it’s 100% true without showing the least interest into actually researching. Wallachians are completely different from Slavs, Poles, or Magyars. The language is different, the military is different, the culture is different, the history is different. Of course, they share some things, like many do, but Wallachians are a civilization that it’s quite particular in Eastern Europe.
For instance, they are direct descendants of the Dacians and Romans, while the Poles are a Slavic tribe. In my opinion, they should have been more prominent in the game since long ago, either with their own civilization or a proper campaign. Call them Wallachians, call them Romanians, but they deserve to be in Age of Empires II.
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No they aren’t, that is Romanian propagand.
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I don’t reject civilisation ideas if I don’t know much about the history of that area/civilisation. People seem to often have strong opinions on areas they don’t know anything about.
If I don’t know much about them like for example Sub Sahara Middle Age Africa I would never say no to that because I can’t judge.
I do think civilisation like the Inuit don’t work though. the only nomadic civilisations that are in the game are the ones that conquered a lot of not nomadic civilisations (Huns, Mongoles, Tatars etc.).
Inuit never had professional fighters or anything like armies because that doesn’t work in those low population areas.
No one knows. Like really there are multiple theories but there is none that is favoured by enough historians to easily say that’s the true one.
It’s kinda a mystery how Roman speaking people ended up in an area that was only shorty controlled by Rome.
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Guess it’s some serious propaganda as it’s widely accepted also in Western Europe, not just the Eastern part of the continent.
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They are different enough culturally, linguistically, and militarily to have their own civ. This is like saying we shouldn’t have Teutons because we have Goths since they’re both germanic.
Omanis were not hunter gatherers or stone age people, they had a seafaring civilization since antiquity and played a vital role in the spice trade in the indian ocean, which later lead to the islamization of the javanese and malays.
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Sure xDDD
Let’s immediately add 10 African civs, for which it will be difficult to find a symbol, and even more unique units - do you realize that it would only be copy and paste?
Better to add up to 2 African civilizations. They will be difficult to reproduce in the game anyway - and will not bring anything interesting.
The Mali and the Ethiopians present in the game have an identical unique unit.
Two new African civilizations are the maximum. Probably they would have archers and they would look the same …
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Its always a good idea to pick civis that fought more than one ingame civi.
Are you serious? Have you seen how diversified africa is with its weapons? African civis can always be more unique than romanians anyday.
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How is a man and a woman the same? Did anyone have female armies in real life other than africa? This is the stupidest argument regarding uus I have ever herd.
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Does it differ in something other than gender? (excluding statistics)
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10 African civs are more important, than any European civs at this point. And why 2 European civs the maximum. How are Zimbabweans and Kanembus similar? 11
Romanians propagate their and Hungarian origin, it is obvious.
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Do you even play this game? One is meele other is ranged,weapons they use are also different.
Mali uu is the only historical female uu unit and its not unique for you?really 11
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