Agree. Not even ironic. This is just bizarre. At least give us a reason why they are keeping them with the wrong buildings when there is massive support for them to be changed.
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I think itās because of the background, I think itād be fine if the yellow circle was a bit more muted like Faithās background is.
Iām also really surprised to see no Persian architecture changes.
Either forgotten, or the -25% conversion resistance is directly calculated from new ones instead of being a fixed +X second time added to conversion.
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This update missed some concerns:
- Persian Architecture not changed.
- Dravidians not buffed.
- Pathing not improved.
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Agreed ā itās because of the bright block colours, but yes, especially the yellow. The other icons have less saturated colours with more of a gradient to them.
I guess itās supposed to be a stained glass window, like Faith.
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Villagers still getting stuck behind mule carts? I think this is one major reason why the two new civs are lagging in rank ladder.
Hindustanis
Villager discount Civilization Bonus increased from -5%/-10%/-15%/-20%-8%/-13%/-18%/-23%.
I know Iām being absurd but these percentages are annoying. 
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It is forgotten because it is the same bonus as Teutons but limited to elephants only.
IKR. It is nothing like new though. Byzantines Imp Age discount is 33% since the game release. And Ethiopians archer fire 18% faster, Aztecs military train 11% faster which used to be 18%.
Reminds me of when the folwark bonus went from 10% ā 8%. It looks ugly but may be for the best.
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Americans have no right to complain that the Hindustani bonus are not round numbers when they donāt even use the metric system for measurement 
Overall a solid update, but the silence on pathing fixes is deafening.
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That is actually not true. Americans have not canonized the metric system, but do make use of MM, CM, Meters, grams and other metric measurements for appropriate purposes. Canonizing the metric system seems a Napoleonic hubris when systems like inches, miles, and pounds are simply better for local purposes.
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Nah they arent better for local purposes lol
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So, tell me how many miles is it between St Paul and New Orleans vs KM?
For what it is worth, I have been to England and locals still use Miles regularly for this reason.
Little concerned This will make dromons feel weak against high armor targets.
Just as a hypothetical, letās imagine your opponent makes a group of teutonic knights and you have five onagers. If your five onagers doing 50 melee atk each land a good hit, then thatās 50 dmg (admittedly tapering off from the center) that overwhelms a Fully Upgraded teutonic knightās 13 MA, so 37 damage is getting through. multiply by 5 and thatās 185 damage at the epicenter. against 100hp teutonic knights, surely the knights were wiped out.
Now I understand aoe2 is a game, not a reality simulator, but a dromon is just an onager on a boat. So we move those same onagers, onto a boat, now itās a dromon. The expectation is that a dromon should perform similarly compared to an onager, but that is not what will happen.
Five dromons collectively send 25 projectiles, each doing 10 melee atk. the teutonic knights melee armor completely negates the damage of each individual projectile, so they instead take the minimum 1 damage. Even assuming every single projectile is within tapering range of a given knight, thatās 25 damage. You going from lots of dead teutonic knights to at worst some of them are at 75 hp.
Similar story with turtle ships. onagers would do 42 damage against 8 melee armor. So five would do 210 dmg. But a dromon would do 2x5 damage, so 10 dmg (50 with five dromons), against a turtle ship. Boyars too, theyād go from taking 39 dmg per onager, to 5 dmg per dromon.
As far as I know the dromon wasnāt broken, or OP. It was a water onager. Worse against buildings but better against ships, but the difference compared to a cannon galleon wasnāt vast.
So it seems like this re-working of the dromon is only so they could buff armenians, by allowing their extra projectile bonus to apply to dromons, so they had to spread the damage amongst the projectiles so that the bonus, as presently phrased, would actually help.
Iām concerned that this re-working will make the dromon un-intuitively bad against certain units when compared with the onager.
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Idk how many miles theres beetwen cities in the US
But its just way more practical to know that 1km is 1000 meter than to know that 1 mile is 5000 ish feet
Same goes for grams
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It is 1190 miles between the two cities. Both systems have advantages, but miles far better suit America.
Who cares? Do you even know the distance beetwen London and Paris, two of the most important cities of the world?
Why do yankees expect me to know so much trivia about their country?
And I dont see your logic, at all
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Actually, it matters enormously for practicality. Some parts of the world measure distance in the time it takes to reach one place from another.
Miles dont do that either, whats the average speed of cars in US roads?
Actually on Freeways Cars often move at ~60MPH or a Mile a minute.