NEW DLC confirmed for 2025

I don’t think they are at all. What gives you the impression that they are? I am very confused at the idea of them calling anyone a moron by extending the season by a week to match the expansion launch.

Would it be preferable to have the season end and have a weeklong gap between the next one?

Kind of reminiscent of the “great news, we’re gonna get 2 DLCs this year”, isn’t it?

Seriously? How can you seriously ask that? What is good news about extending the season after having extended announcements and reveals of the DLC? After leaving the entire player base in silence for a year before dropping a “bonus” DLC that is clearly split from a major one?

Seriously. Would you also be happy if they just spat at you?

The problem is that they are disingenuous at every turn. They can’t admit to their development hell.

Or maybe: tell people it’s because the upcoming update is taking longer.

Wouldn’t hurt? No?

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Because I think you’re projecting your emotions into their statement.

It is deeply confusing to see the response of “Do you think I’m stupid?” to pretty much anything other than someone condescending someone’s intelligence.

It immediately communicates an insecure mindset, that’s all.

If it’s such great news, they could just remove seasons entirely and give players all the time in the world to “climb the ladder”. Wouldn’t that be the best news?

He also doesn’t know. He says so himself. Beasty also didn’t know. He assumed there was originally 1 and then many took that as gospel.

None of us know. Most likely we never will. The only way we would is if they officially told us, and why would they bother?

Maybe it was originally 1 larger DLC, maybe it was always going to be 2, maybe it was supposed to come out last year but got delayed, maybe it was all supposed to come out this spring but they weren’t going to be ready, maybe they think they can make more money by splitting it up, maybe a lot of things. But we have no solid evidence one way or another.

I also don’t know why it even matters really. With each DLC we can each decide based on the price and the content if it is worth it for us.

You said FE can’t work on the engine. I disagree.

I disagree with this as well. Textures are normally developed as high quality assets and reduced in size. It’s easier to do it that way (otherwise every time you scale up you’d need to fill in detail).

Jeanne herself was showcased on reddit and I don’t have a direct source but I remember Bidderlyn (I think) talking about her looking better. Bidderlyn doesn’t work for Relic.

He’s big on 4K / HD textures. Nothing wrong with that either. Maybe he did mean the terrain rendering updates and AO. But he also obviously wants higher quality textures and literally in the post above claims that they’re not possible.

Maybe they’re not. But that doesn’t have much to do with Relic.

You can doubt as much as you want. The existence of MP pause suggests otherwise, in my opinion. I get it, it’s not glamourous, but networking is an incredibly difficult aspect of MP games tech.

We also have (some) map tool updates coming in the future (unsure when). Bidderlyn disclosed this in the modding Discord some time ago. Tech improvements are more than possible.

On the asset front, looking at Henry V (presumably), he looks to have a level of detail comparable to Jeanne.

I’m not a fan of setting studios against each other. I simply think talented people exist at Relic and within the rest of the studios working on AoE IV and that improvements aren’t an impossibility even if Relic seem to be less involved / not involved these days.

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Beasty said a lot was coming, but that he didn’t know that much about it, and everyone took that to mean for sure that 1 massive DLC was coming. It was only ever an assumption.

Some people are insisting it is a fact there was supposed to be 1 big DLC that then got split into 2. I just see no reason to make that assumption one way or the other (or why it is something to be mad about even if true).

I also wouldn’t assume the 2nd is mostly done. It seems they probably delayed the release of this one by a week, they may be down to the wire even getting it finished.

The communication for the entire AoE series has usually been pretty lacking. They didn’t lie though since they never said it was a single DLC in the first place.

There doesn’t seem to BE an official story to believe. They aren’t saying whether 1 or 2 was the plan. This has nothing to do with defending World’s Edge.

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Oh man I hope they improve the editing tools a bunch. I think that is one of the things we need the most.

It’s a new terrain tool, nothing transformative but very useful for existing mappers. I hope they invest more in the tools, but we know nothing more than that right now.

I don’t want to get hopes up, merely demonstrate the range of technical improvements that have been happening since Relic have seemed to take a backseat in development (backed up by what they say on their Discord about being focused on CoH 3 and smaller internal projects).

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Interesting.

I do think they need to do something to make modding more user friendly in addition to adding more advanced features.

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This message to devs pls tell us next dlc’s variant civs you plan to make so if you guys do sometihng unreal we can stop you from the begining.

By the way i bought the dlc i hope i didnt get scammed.

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I need to add this to english manor looks very cheap they used house model to get it from easy way.

Real english manor:

Guys pls correct this i already feel like im getting scammed.

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Did they really? I’m not sure if I see the resemblance. To me it looks more similar to the TC than the house.

Either way, there’s little in this DLC to make me buy it. Templars are the closest, but without knowing more about their bonuses, they just seem like you pick 1 out of 3 units per age, which is kind of boring. And if certain units turn out to be better than others, it’s gonna be one-dimensional as well, similar to Ayyubids wings.

There’s a case to be made about buying it to support development. But there’s 2 sides to this: it can allow them to make better DLC, or it can encourage them to make even more low-budget DLCs. I think the onus should be on them to make a good product if the want to turn a profit, not on me.

At least if they reveal something on the scale of AoE2’s free update for Season 10’s update, then maybe that will convince me to support them, but other than that I’m not very tempted to buy this. I know I won’t play the civs much, I barely played any campaigns, and there are plenty of maps in the game. So this is not worth more than $7-$8 for me personally.

A scam involves deception, such as not receiving what you paid for or being misled. In this case, the developers have clearly outlined what’s included in the DLC, and you will receive it as promised on launch day. If you’re unsure whether it’s worth the price, that’s a personal decision, but it is not a scam.

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They took 2 english house and turned one of them then put it next to other and called it manor.

Yes you are right it dont seem like a scam but i get the feeling i scamed.

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It sounds like you might benefit from waiting for reviews or gameplay from streamers before deciding. That way, you can get a clearer idea of whether the DLC is truly worth it for you. :slightly_smiling_face:

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This guy has made a lot of interesting civ designs and it looks like The Crusader State is close to the new variant civ

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You weren’t.

That building (Belton House) is from 1685 and 1687, which is too late for the game’s era.

The thing is, that’s not the type of English manor in the game. The term evolved over time, and in fact, “Manor” refers to three types of buildings:

  • Manor House (Manor 1). - This was a type of fortified settlement, where a landed nobleman controlled the lands of the peasantry. It was fortified to prevent a jealous neighboring landowner intent on stealing his land from setting it on fire, or to defend against peasant revolts. These are the ones represented in the game.

  • Country House (Manor 2) - It was a luxurious palace built by many gentry, noble landowners who had enough money to remodel old manor houses to spend time “in the country” when they weren’t in the city. Most didn’t have the fortifications of manor houses because they considered themselves to be in a “Peaceful Age” post-War of the Roses.

This is what the Manor houses looked like at the time of the Lancaster game (1300-1500):

They were less decorated than the post 1500 manors of the Tudor era, and many actual Manor houses were later remodeled in Country houses to suit the architecture of the period.

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