Nope.
One funny thing is that the leaked achievement has 3 people tracked as having obtained it.
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Yes, two flags from a DLC that was never made because they were working on AoM Retold…at most Tilanus said that the Poles were going to be a cavalry civ (like in AoE 2) and the Danes a naval civ and probably infantry (like the Vikings in AoE 2)…
Yes, they will never do something as botched as the Baltic DLC presentation of the 3DE…
Nah, at most they will make one page of the book with campaigns in East Asia like Northwest China (Juchens), Southwest China (Tanguts) and Central or Eastern China (the Chinese per se, probably a Ming campaign before Lake Poyang in 1351 and ending before the Chinese campaign of AoE 3, which would be Zheng He’s travels in 1421, in 1398)…
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I’m sorry to point it out, but you’ve been totally wrong about them.
Jurchens are on Northeast China and Tanguts are on Northwest China. Southwest China lives Li, Zhuang, Nong and other minor ethics. They founded Nanzhao and Dali in today’s Yunnan, Guangxi and Guizhou provinces.
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For anyone who doesn’t know, Steam introduced “private branches” which MS seems to have adopted in mid january. So before, such as during the speculation before the BFG reveal, we could see which depots were being updated, and each depot had a number numerically corresponding to a dlc or the base game, and the name of the depot (which typically included the name of the studio, or sometimes even pup related names).
Now we see none of that. All we see is that something updated in aoe2 at this time. FAR less info to go off of.
I will say it’s not NOTHING tho. I did look back and there was a spike in the number of updates about a week before the screenshots were dropped. Presumably a last minute push to finish things so they’d be ready for the screenshots for the article.
We’ve seen similar upticks in activity before right before, usually preceding some announcement or release.
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Can anyone tell me where can I find the 2nd scenario? Saracens wonder which is replaced by Tatars wonder and used for DE release teaser pictures.
Pretty sure it’s baghdad from tamerlane 5, Scourge of the Levant.
So what i’m getting from this is that they hate fun.
/j (mostly)
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Oh yes. Thanks. So for teaser picture, they change the civ from Saracens to Tatars.
Well, okay, you’re right…I was just saying…
What if we were all “wrong” and instead of a Chinese split, it’s more of a “nomadic asian tribe” dlc ?
I mean, splitting a civ as old as China, from the base game, is something very risked, balance wise, and also it’s one of the iconic civs.
I’m not an expert in China history, but from what I’ve read there, there is a lot of hint on nomadic roots for at least two of the civs we’ve seen, maybe even three. We know that nomads people attempted to invade China a lot, cf Great Wall of China, so what do you think of it ?
But in the other hand, they’ve worked with chinese expert for AoM dlc, so would make sense to have them also working on AoE2 dlc, one stone, two shots.
I also realized that the flag in the editor, with multiple color strips, similar to the castle of the gate of the red civ on Red vs Green screenshot, is one of the latest addition to the editor. There is probably a link between them and they might be related to a specific tribe / group / whatsoeveryoucallit from chinese history.
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This is just my guess: if so, they will probably pick Khitans or Uyghurs, since they are nomadic, but not Jurchens and Tanguts, since they are not much nomadic, but very “Chinese”. Persians are as old as Chinese in base game, but it was remastered, so it wasn’t that risk as you thought.
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The problem is that the civs in the screenshots are clearly the Jurchens and Tanguts.
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So I bet on Chinese splitting, not Asian Nomads.
Other guess : a Split China DLC… without Chinese campaign (but with a Korean one).
They could then keep this campaign for a later South East Asia DLC (with Thais… and maybe Chams), thus creating a “classical” expansion (2 new civs + 1 filled hole)
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I was watching a theorycrafting video recently where they were talking about a DLC in this area (Jurchens and Khitans though as opposed to Tanguts) and were pairing it with a Korean update they did. Also the nest of bees would indicate some Korean involvement, and like you say it leaves the door open to including a China campaign with a Thai and Chams DLC or something.
Also, one could argue (I’m not sure I totally agree with this though) that this Jurchens and Tanguts DLC isn’t technically a chinese split DLC, because its all China-adjacent peoples.
My personal hope is that this DLC brings us Jurchens, Tanguts, Khitans, and a Korean campaign and/or a Chinese campaign. That would be the ideal for me (Well…ideal would also include a new E. Asian architecture and having the old one be just Japanese, and maybe even a Steppe/nomad architecture, but that ain’t happening lol)
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It might not be a split. It can be addition of more Chinese civs just like DE added 3 more Slavic civs.
I won’t lose my hope for Khitans until all official teaser pictures are released.
That will be fantastic. I do believe SEA needs to explore another time and Siamese+Chams should be added.
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Came across a relevant reddit post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/s/j5BsNgZFj1
I wish people understood this “Chinese” DLC is not same as splitting “Indians”.
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This post mainly talked about name, but I say this is Chinese splitting DLC mainly because:
From screenshots, all those civs got fire lancer, grenadier, hwacha, and jurchens seemed got Chukonu.
Those units are all typical “Chinese” units, indicated devs treat those 2 new civs as Chinese, and if they both have got those Chinese units, vanilla Chinese has no chance to haven’t, that means vanilla Chinese will be remade since new DLC, as Hindustan was remade on Indian splitting DLC.
Even they left Chinese as Chinese, it will be a new civ in gameplay.
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I wonder if the Jurchens will have free cavalry armor upgrades. It would make sense given how famously heavily-armored their horsemen were.
Would it be too strong?