You’re definitely right!
I have heard that phrase before. IDK…I’ve literally never heard scenario and campaign confused before, but I suppose, a sufficiently stupid of ill-informed person could have written that.
The offering itself seems really cheap and the price on the steep side. it seems to me that they were trying to put lipstick on a pig, and jedi mind trick the community to thinking it was a better deal than it actually was. Also it seems unlikely to me that if you’re teasing your super duper big event that somebody has to be checking it over to make sure what’s being said is correct and doesn’t give away too much. Again tho a sufficiently inept marketing dept I suppose could explain this. I don’t get “mis-spoke” vibes from this whole situation, but I suppose I can’t categorically dis-prove it.
Basically the requisite stupidity by multiple people approaches where I think occams razor actually favors the deceit angle. One person being dis-honest seems like fewer assumptions than multiple people being mind-bogglingly dumb, but YMMV.
All that being said, IF the came out with an actual sincere apology (even if it was just an apology for “mis-speaking”), I’d be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, let by-gones be by-gones and buy the dlc. I really do want this game to thrive and I want to support the new content, but lying to me is a bridge too far.
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Also why not add a Samurai on horseback. That mounted samurai waiting.
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Ninja also is good potential unit for Japanese civ.
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i’m looking forward to the dlc. i rarely play Custem Campains. so i get 19 new missions to play. that’s awesome. and as long as they’re polish and fun i don’t care if there are remakes
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Honestly same. I would’ve liked to see the traditional story campaigns instead but I can work with these scenarios as well. I also would’ve liked it to be less expensive but I’ll be buying it. I get why some are frustrated; and they probably should’ve said “Scenario” instead of “Campaign” but honestly just looking at how the menus are set up in game, I think that in MS’ internal parlance I think the terms are probably interchangeable to them, which caused some of the backlash. In the menus the current single-game items aren’t called scenarios by the game; they’re called “Historical battles” in the campaign section of the menu. Given that they probably consider them campaigns too, just one game campaigns instead of multiple. Granted you’d hope the devs would be in-touch enough with the community to realize there is a parlance difference in the community and market accordingly, but I mean ah well.
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Dudes, you don’t need to sugarcoat it. They intentionally mislead people. It’s pretty obvious. Their bottom line must be in free fall and they need to bring in the most amount of cash with the least amount of effort.
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Besides the bad choise of words, a standard campaing has 5, 6 scenarios. This DLC cost the same as previous DLCs that gave us at least 2 new civs, 2 all-new campaings.
For the same cost this DLC give us only 5 all-new scenarios and I can asume (because this is something you want to show in an annoucement to generate desire to buy it), none new assets.
This DLC could have new hero units.
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While that’s a possibility (and would be excellent if they have new skins, or if existing units like the Mounted Samurai finally get a relevant skin), I don’t expect it. Seems like they would have at least shown one such asset if they had any.
I definitely wonder what the rest of the dev team was doing while, by all appearances, Phillysoulja was carrying this DLC. If I’m being optimistic I’d guess there’s interesting stuff that hasn’t been shown yet and/or that announcements for other types of content are soon to follow, but I have no particular evidence for that.
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No there aren’t any new units. Or they would have shown off on the stream.
I’m pretty sure there are some new hero units, because they kinda teased that a couple of the heros being used as aliases in T90’s hidden cup tournament are from the new DLC. I did also see at least a tower in one of the shots that didn’t look familiar and I think is new, so there is at least one new building I think.
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They can remedy this somewhat by quickly pushing out new hero skins in the editor and a new architecture set for the Byzantines, Armenians, etc.
That tower was an East Asian fortified tower unfortunately.
Other than RoR, all previous DLCs gave not 2 but 3 full campaigns.
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Sure, they “can” at any time, but a Scenario DLC would have been the ideal situation to add more such assets, and their absence now makes an eventual addition less likely. TBH the years-long pattern of skimping on new assets, among other things, irks me far more than a temporary miscommunication about a DLC, or a mildly overpriced DLC, ever could.
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They should at least add new heroes, buildings, trees and animals with the new scenarios.
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Now it feels like too much to ask for.
I mean they are asking money for recycled scenarios and voice acting that they recorded in their backyards, like they usually do.
To me, it feels like waisted potential. With the same amount of scenarios, they could have released 3 or 4 full campaigns (5 scenarios each), that is nearly 1/3 or half missing campaigns for civs without dedicated one.
That’s the worst to me, because, other than that, I am happy to get new official single player content.
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Well, the devs/marketing team got one thing right:
2024 is going to be a great year for Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition , with some surprises we’re pretty sure you’ll simply never guess.
I’m pretty sure no one guessed they’d do this. On the other hand,
We’re hyped and can’t wait to see the reaction as some of these things get announced!
I suspect this isn’t the reaction they hoped for. The response on Reddit seems less negative, but still not what I’d call positive.
I’m not outraged the way some people are, but I do think the criticism is justified. I’m not sure what I think about freely available custom content having an official paid-for release – not that it’s the first time in AoE2’s history that that has happened.