New DLC Suggestion: Between the Worlds. Germanic Tribes

That you do not have to do, because you are showing again your usual pissed off side…

Your are that and are starting to rekindle an argument, that is not one. I had a usual discussion with @TwerDefender last night.

I do not have any, because you obviously misunderstood me. What I meant was, that a number of Indian civs are not well known to Europeans and that is actually true. The sentence has nothing to do with, whether I like Indian civs or not.

I did not do it. However you always have this tendency in your frequent hostilities.

These reasons are not problematic at all, you do confuse apples with pears.

So do you think, you can represent other peoples opinions, but accuse me of doing that… Therefore you are contradicting yourself.

I wouldn’t have got involved, except that you were making a (false) statement about the opinions of all European players.

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I can not see a false statement, because I am European myself. And when I made one, I then corrected it again. An now please let the topic in peace…

So you think because you are European, you can speak for all Europeans?

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I never said that. Can you see it, how you provocate again.

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Then what did you mean by this?:

Perhaps it wasn’t intentional, but you really did make a statement about the opinions of Europeans in general here, when really these are just your own opinions.

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You can read it carefully, than you know it.

I do not see anything wrong with it. It is just a statement, that applies to a bigger part of european people.

Nobody but you seemed to mind yesterday night. Unfortunately you make a disput out of nothing.

nah, for me it’s mostly that they have awful mechanics with magic shields and mode switching. i hadn’t heard about the goths or teutons either when I first played aoe2 as a child

again, for me it’s the mechanics: flemish revolution and charged attacks. just no.

I spent a month in Georgia, it’s a beautiful country. I have no problem with Georgians existing, just how they are implemented. Monaspa are the worst designed unit (next to shrivamsha) and I find the mule carts super clunky and awkward. It’s also just an incredibly bland civ to play

I’d rather have an Atlantis civ that’s fun to play with interesting mechanics than a historical civ with bad design.

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Okay that is good to know. There can be various reasons, why one prefers certain civs and not others.

You have not explained up to now…

It is an opinion, I told you another opinion for the same civ.

I would definitely buy a DLC like that as many Germans would.

Swiss and Austria should also be represented by civs. There is so much room for interesting campaigns.

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Not only Germans… Pole too.

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Yes, but the Burgundians in the game symbolize the Burgundian State (1384-1482) to differentiate them from the French and to represent the Dutch and Belgians…they already appeared in Joan of Arc’s campaign and serve as predecessors of the Dutch of AoE 3…

Yes, I would divide them into Swiss, Bavarian and Austrian…

Yes, it’s quite a topic, they should rename them Alemanii, Alemans or simply Germanics (Teutons sounds like civ from AoE 1) and let the Goths represent the Ostrogoths and the Visigoths…

Good point…Italy has 3 civs (Italians in the north, Romans in the center and Sicilians in the south) and the Germans only 1 or 2 if we count the Goths…

Well Age of Chivalry influenced many of the 2 DE expansions (TLotW, DotD mainly)…

It’s just that they wanted to monetize the game or else they would have left the game in TLK and that’s it…

True, true, but it is what it is… civs with state names are more for AoE 4…

The Gurjaras are from the Pratihara Empire (730-1036) and the Bengalis from the Pala Empire (750-1161) and the Bengali Sultanate (1352-1576)…

Yes, but if you add Dutch, the Dutch empire dates from 1581 onwards and Flemish does not say anything prior to 1830…

Exactly, you have a story and you want to represent it in a civ or a civ that has a story to tell…so you have campaigns without their own civ (Dracula) and civs without their own campaign (the ones in East Asia)…

Yes, the same thing happened to me with the Hauds, Lakotas or the Hausa in AoE 3…

It’s because they are AoM and AoE 3 mechanics, that’s why it seems strange to you…what the FE guys are looking for is to bring AoE 2 players closer to later AoEs mechanics so that little by little they move on to those games or modernizing AoE 2 for new generations…

It’s because they took it out of AoM and it feels weird in a 2D game…

*They grabbed and put Atlanteans in AoE 2 xd…

Yes, for Switzerland I would give William Tell (1307-1315) and for Austria Frederick III (1442-1493)…

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No love for saxon/y?

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Also…in fact you could create a Saxon campaign for the first holy emperor Otto I (936-973)…And for the Bavarian campaign, the son-in-law of Frederick III, Albert IV of Bavaria (1467-1508)… and then you put all the new German civs into the Barbarossa campaign (1152-1190)…

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