New graphics for aoe4 s5 are insane!

[GorbMort]

@TsudaTumiko

Ahh I remember being one of the first complaining about poor graphics and graphics comparison with x019 trailer

What they’ve improved in this PUP has nothing to do with the differences in the trailer you’re referring to.

Yes, they’ve made the game look better. But they’ve done it by keeping what they want the game to look like, without going back to whatever people see in that trailer.

But sure, let’s talk about who was incorrect

[TsudaTumiko]

Can you share your source, I want to see those numbers.

[ElFabuloso]

@ElFabuloso

It’s just a matter of time before Age of Empires IV eclipses Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (imo).

All the previous months, the haters just wasted their time.

1. I never said that i hope Age of Empires IV eclipses Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition. I made a prediction that it will happen (you can agree or disagree with that prediction).

2. I never said/implied anything about competition between these two games.

3. The reason i made this post is because quite a few people come here on a weekly basis and bash the game. I am not referring to the people that provide constructive criticism but to the haters that just bash. Most of these haters happen to be Age of Empires II players. It seems like they are personally invested in the failure of Age of Empires IV.

4. Age of Empires IV players don’t give a damn about Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition and its success or not. It’s a game they will never play (for many reasons).

[CRothlisberger]

@SubotaiMGL

The guy who said the game is perfect as it is

I’ve never seen anyone in the forum ever say that. I would be very surprised if you could find a single example.

[FloosWorld]

@ElFabuloso

I never said/implied anything about competition between these two games.

Well, even if it wasn’t your intention, the first paragraph of your original post implied as if these two games are in a competition.

@ElFabuloso

Age of Empires IV players don’t give a damn about Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition and its success or not. It’s a game they will never play (for many reasons).

But yet, there are a lot of AoE 4 players who played or still play one of the older games which I think are the majority of players.

[Evil3990]

Does anyone else think they should include details with blood? that at least have the option to activate or deactivate for players who do not want to see it?

[SubotaiMGL]

yep, AOE4 is missing a lot of core PvE content, mechanics, and features from its previous titles.
This is why its player base is smaller etc.

[EmployedPrince6]

Yep, as a noob who only play PvE i want that feature.

[WoolCube2971618]

you cannot simply compare a free game sale with a patch, a free game sale means everyone can try it OUT FOR FREE, a patch ONLY hypes up those who are still playing or have the GAME, its not comparable LMFAO

[Franknezu11]

yup because aoe 4 success depend on playernumber and patch didnt rise up as those days. They are comparabla because aoe 4 is mostly a live service game.

[WoolCube2971618]

@Franknezu11

didnt rise up as those days.

cos those days were free lul, more people could try it, even if its service live game you cannot compare it becuase comparing a patch vs free sale is like comparing apples to tomatoes.

[Franknezu11]

you re right there were more ppl but also more ppl that wanted to stay after trying so there was an potential increase which dragg old player to play as there more ppl to play specially on team format. yeah its like apple vs tomatoes but we are analysing the tax behind fruit which applies both items but you consider tomatoes as veggies (like irl)

[WoolCube2971618]

the point is, its not comparable. Yes its true more people wanted to stay after because they tried it but when a patch is released only players who already have the game can TRY it.

thats what im saying.

[GorbMort]

Always makes me laugh when people try and claim a game with no microtransactions and an upfront cost is a “live service game”.

People might think it’ll do better as an F2P “freemium” experience, sure. But the game as-is isn’t a live service game. The seasons have had, to date, only cosmetics to unlock (and even then, all for the player profile and barely anything ingame).

It’s especially funny when the folks pushing this “live service” definition are only doing so so they criticise the game for not living up to a standard they’ve made up

[Loaf]

Did anyone make an fps/performance comparison related to these graphical upgrades? I know optimization always has been problematic in aoe4, with a medium rig I have severe fps drops (100->50) when hovering over the terrain, hopefully, these will be addressed in future patches (Copium).

[HungrySinger511]

Personally, I don’t care about graphics that much. I never complained in the past and I did not really notice what the difference was so I decided to take some screenshots and compare the PUP to the live Season 4.

Here you can see the MAA looks better and the horse spears are thinner.

The big thing is the ground has more grass and looks less like playdough

Definitely more light and more crisp berries

More crisp minerals

better grass

I think the landmark looks slightly better, but hard to get the exact same angel

Not sure if this is an accurate representation of most cliffs, but I gave up at this point

[MatM1996]

@ElFabuloso

It’s just a matter of time before Age of Empires IV eclipses Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (imo).

The saga is reborn xd…

@CRothlisberger

I don’t think it matters if AoE4 ever “eclipses” AoE2. It’s not a competition, all the people trying to make it one are silly.

I also think the only way it ever would is by adding a lot more single player/coop content.

I do agree that the “haters” are usually wasting their time. Look how often the guy just below you for example, who is supposedly an AoE fan, makes negative comments and never says anything of substance here (or on any of the other AoE games’ forums).

@AgeOfAwesomenes

Dude this is not a competition between games in the series. All the games have their player bases and a lot of players really like AoE 2 and I don’t see them moving from it which is fine. People need to stop this nonsense of “ only this game I like is good the others are bad “ or “ the old games need to disappear and be replaced.” Just play whichever game in the series you enjoy the most and don’t needlessly bash the other games. Construction criticism or a legitimate complaint is different.

@FiveWind6951746

The beautiful thing about the AoE franchise is all the games offer unique experiences to varying degrees and that means they can all coexist without “replacing” one another. This isn’t your typical franchise like Call of Duty or whatever where the newest iteration isn’t that much different from the previous one sans the setting. The AoE franchise is really unique in this regard and people should appreciate it more instead of tearing the games they don’t like down, especially when they haven’t played them.

Yes, I agree with everything… no AoE can replace another…I play the entire saga and they are all amazing and recommendable…

@ArrivedLeader22

We’re lucky in a series that most games are constantly supported.
That’s actually quite rare. Shouldn’t be taken for granted.

In fact I would say all their games are constantly supported…

@HungrySinger511

Here you can see the MAA looks better and the horse spears are thinner.

Yes, also the shadows look sharper…

@HungrySinger511

The big thing is the ground has more grass and looks less like playdough

@HungrySinger511

better grass

@HungrySinger511

I think the landmark looks slightly better, but hard to get the exact same angel

@HungrySinger511

Not sure if this is an accurate representation of most cliffs, but I gave up at this point

Yes, graphically it doesn’t look like 3 DE but it’s on the right track…