Yeah I did find this to be a big simplification and inaccurate. Although when has AoE2 cared about some “small” inaccuracies? Especially in a random hint section.
Perhaps a smoking fire lance.
Good catch though. Assuming there aren’t comparable changes to other scenarios/campaigns that are less connected to the Sinosphere, this rises to the level of (relatively) strong evidence.
Changes in the Alaric campaign text are what tipped some of us off to the centurion’s aura buff before that info was available anywhere else.
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That’s the bit I want to check next…but it’s late and I need sleep. Plus those levels are insanely large. But checking the hints/scouts section should be enough.
What makes it so weird is how only the Sino-sphere context stuff was changed. Literally nothing else in the sections about the Mongol-aligned players.
iirc, wasn’t that a hidden string file? So it wasn’t publicly visible anyway.
It would be neat if the presumably reworked Chinese received a unique Tulou building, which I erroneously gave to the Khitans in my concept.
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Very very interesting. What about Genghis Khan campaign? Any text change on the 3rd mission?
None that I can find.
And no changes to missions 1 or 2 either.
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They did defeat the chinese, though.
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No Khitans then?
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I really wish to see the Tibetans… It’s the sino sphere empire I want the most…
Ok then, didn’t defeat ONLY the Chinese.
Point being, the Khitans are being clarified as a separate civ here.
I don’t think any of Genghis Khan’s levels remaining the same rules anything out.
Likely they want to keep this quiet, and were also working on this DLC alongside V&V. So V&V were likely prepared for this change since it was easier to do so, and Genghis Khan will be altered on release of the DLC, like every other level is when new civs are added.
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I believe that while we are talking
The authorities are also watching us
It’s not easy for us to get obvious clues right away
Keep in mind that these have likely been under our noses the entire time. Hiding in plain sight, so to speak.
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What’s interesting here is that all four of the highly requested civs get some amount of evidence here. This lines up well with the common requests for all four of these civs together, and the likelihood that “achievement 319” is literally that…the 319th achievement. As adding four new civs and a Chinese campaign brings us a lot closer to that number.
Also to continue my investigation, I checked Kommenos, to see if there were changes to the notes and hints as well. The only change was that the mention of archers from one civ was removed, although it already mentioned footman, so likely superfluous and not to mislead players during gameplay. This change wasn’t done for historical accuracy, just pure gameplay reasons. This seems to indicate that there was intent to make these changes to Temujin’s level based on something important, that being the ease of introduction of these new civs.
So with this, I think we can safely call Tanguts and Jurchens pretty much confirmed at this point, and Khitans and Tibetans very likely. Welcome to the AoE2 club guys.
Not necessarily. None of the descriptions for the kara-khitai were originally inaccurate in a way that’s be awkward with the inclusion of a khitan civ. Just describes them as “steppe dwellers”.
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My friend, you’re wayyyyyyy ambitious with 4 new possible civs.
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Then explain 44 new achievements without hitting such a number?
It’s not like there haven’t been 4 civ DLCs before.
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DUDE, if u are correct with this theme of the next DLC. I’ll buy it for you! <3333
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I am just looking for evidence haha, that’s all.
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I just realized, people have checked Genghis but did someone look into Tamerlan?
Would there be anything there? You don’t go to East Asia in it.
I think that Tamerlane image earlier was nothing tbh.