I don’t think a game has to keep dishing out new content (new civs) to be successful. There are 22 civs in aoe3 which is an 18 year old game. 22 civs are enough for me. Im happy if they don’t release new ones but polish the existing civs a bit more. I guess the only ones I might want are potentially new African civs but im still happy if they don’t make those civs.
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Bro literally posted a conspiracy theory about the developers intentionally bungled a patch and then is surprised when people are picking fights with him. What a wild time to think that people actually intentionally sabotage their jobs rather than just saying “no new patches”
Also not to mention this is coming off of just a recent brand new patch and people are saying “no hope???” It’s an amazing lack of perspective.
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Most definitely. I mean I’m not aware of timelines and teams size but I think the old adage of “do not attribute to malice what you can attribute to ignorance”. It’s not as deep as self sabotage.
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No it’s not the people who work on the game sabotaging their own work.
There is no such coherent group called “the developers” acting as if they were one person. “The developers” cannot choose to do or not do something on their own behalf unless given orders.
It’s the management of this company who has no idea about this game and cares little.
There is no “self” sabotage. These are all different people with different mindsets.
The last patch had game-breaking bugs that were supposed to get fixed in the PUP. And they did get fixed. But then they shipped the wrong version without the bugfixes (or at least that’s what they say). And it has been a month those already-fixed bugs were still not fixed.
I’d imagine some manager looking at the calendar and saying “hey we’ve finished the patch for this month. We can stop working on this game for a while and get back to it a month later.”
They have no idea what the updates did, what was messed up, what the players are asking for or criticizing, and how that is already a simple one-click fix ready to go. They only look at their internal calendars and sheets and think everything goes as planned. What happens on the basic level never reached their ears. Nor do they care. Unlike “some other games” where they would respond very quickly.
It’s not just we receive no communication. The company has been disconnected from us about this game as well.
And I’m not saying this is out of malice, but neglect.
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Im not reading all of that. Sorry that happened to you or congratulations that happened to you or don’t presume to know about things you can only speculate on.
But yeah you’re right there should be a hot fix. But that’s true for all their products that they don’t get around the clock support. Only about 6-8k losers like us play this game.
All games have bugs.
Some are fixed fast. Some are not. Some are already fixed but still need to wait for a month to release. Some used to be fixed fast.
I wonder what cause the difference.
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Because if you really read it you’ll realize I’m not saying anything 10% similar to what you think I’m saying.
But congratulations anyway.
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Feels like you are very out of context.
Many of the bugs are already fixed but they published the wrong version according to the devs themselves.
I don’t think it will need 100k online players to publish the “right version”.
And something like the 8 crossbows can be fixed jn 15 minutes. I can do that myself. You don’t need 100k players to do that.
And back when the game had even FEWER players bugfixes were faster.
This can only be explained by serious failure in the management recently.
But of course dude does not to read all that before appearing as the insightful critic.
CONGRATULATIONS
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For people who still cannot see how intolerable this is, let me make the comparison.
It’s not that the game lacked critical bugs.
There was once the unit stuck in trade posts bug. It was game breaking. It was not easy to fix and took quite a while. But we had several posts and patch notes announcing they were working on it.
There was also once the explorer OOS bug. It was game breaking. It was not easy to fix. They acknowledged it and fixed it as quickly as possible.
Those happened when the game had FEWER players than now. I’m not even comparing to the support of “the more important games” in the series.
And I didn’t complain about either of them. Maybe that’s the exact reason. Being too tolerant and they lower the bar more and more. Now here is what we deserve:
A bug, game breaking, but easy to fix, supposed to have been fixed in a mysterious “right version” already, still in complete darkness after a month, the only communication being “we can’t say more details”.
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Comparatively I suppose.
Like the 8 crossbow bug is super easy to fix but has taken even longer to release than the OOS bug.
That’s why I think either there is not enough personnel working on the game, or the management has no idea about the current state (like “Patch released as planned, No need to do major work in a month”, with no knowledge how trivial it is), or both.
There’s enough content now to keep me busy the rest of my life.
I don’t understand this constant screeching about where’s our new content. You buy the game you get the game. Anything released after that is a gift. They don’t owe you anything.
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There are a lot of people who do sound that way, I even might have sounded that way some times. But for me the problem is they’re not telling us whether or not more content will happen. Which specifically makes content creation hard a lot of times and questions like “should we just make our own updates now” pop up but people don’t know what to do.
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Man you’re really popping off about this. Nobody is saying it shouldn’t be fixed. Definitely should be a hotfix for this game when things come up. And nobody is saying things are managed properly if they are releasing incorrect patch versions. The point I’m making is that it isn’t malicious or intentional, just bad planning. And we tend to be ungrateful for the work already done.
Hey listen, I will accept your apology for arguing with me so much and we can be friends. Is that ok?
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I don’t get the sense there is entitlement in this community, more like enthusiasm. None of us expected the game to have received the support and content it has. For many, it’s been a dream come true. It’s natural when something is going good you don’t want it to stop.
Now, that being said, it’s justifiable that people are upset when the game is barely advertised on SM, left out of a certain event meant to celebrate the ENTIRETY of the franchise, a lazy F2P model that has squandered any momentum that game could have gained had it been done much better, zero communication with the player base and no much-needed hotfixes for two patches in a row.
I would not label this as an entitled attitude. People would appreciate basic communication but instead, those in charge have doubled down on not providing anything whatsoever. People want the game to be treated better.
WE has done absolutely nothing to foster any sort of rapport with this community and now it’s gotten much worse. We’re not even getting the placation treatment these days.
People care about this game and still see a lot of potential for it to be even better. A new offering is not a guarantee considering how IV leaves a lot to be desired.
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Dude really just wants to repeat the same witty murmuring regardless of what other people are actually saying.
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We’re witnessing the great experiment of dropping the ball even harder after the game gets much more players and a community event that would supposedly last for a whole year.
“Uh that’s not intentional malice that’s just incompetence or neglect let me teach you”
They were not this incompetent before. What happened? Why are there fewer people, slower response and much poorer communication than ever? Did the devs and support team just evaporate by accident? Who allowed that to happen?
Of course it’s not intentional malice. It’s intentional neglect.
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If they were intentionally neglectful they wouldn’t still be releasing patches. Even if they do create some bugs. They would just instead do nothing at all. Its skeleton crew work sure but not “intentionally neglectful”. Maybe you can make a new thread where you’re howling at the moon letting everyone know the game is being sabotaged because….reasons?
Yes. Much like you actually jumping up and down about willful neglect from the developers in a thread about future content. Weird.
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