No more bonus damage vs siege weapons

Age of Mythology: Retold Discussion
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I wonder what you all think about this change in retold?

In og every civ had a unit with large multiplier vs siege weapons, but correctly there are none.
I guess with siege weapons being “bad vs anything that is not a building” made them rethink of the need for a counter (except Chariobalistra, but they are archers now), but now there is no such fast way to obliterate siege.

Also with Chariobalistra not benefiting from siege upgrades, the siege label feels even more degenerated, as no unit interacts with it, and Chariobalistras are practically just archers.

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Currently only villagers do bonus damage vs. siege as far as I know.

And yes I agree that the latest change to Cheiroballistas is stupid. They already fall of a lot in late game and now they are even worse. Why would you ever chose them over Arcus now? Are they even more cost efficient against pure Infantry armies?

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Siege weapons are weak against crush damage already, as they have nearly 0 defence against crush damage. I hardly think the need of bonus damage.

You can use catapults to counter other siege weapons, extremely effective, much effective than cavalry.

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Ohh right, i forgot about it.

Yea, they changed it to be like this in retold, with siege heaving 50% crush armor instead of 80%. Having aoe2 like siege counters siege.

Its not that there are no other fast ways to get rid of siege, it’s just the change in formula O’m wondering about.

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I am glad that they change that actually, because I can ignore cavalry and use those extra pops to build myth units, elephants and archers, and catapults can take down wall, siege and fortresses.

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Meanwhile throwing axemen are affected by burning pitch now, this means that burning pitch throwing axemen are better than any siege weapon in the game because they’re cheap and much easier to mass.
There’s absolutely no reason to make ballista as norse because it’s no longer affected by burning pitch, meanwhile burning pitch throwing axemen obliterate buildings in seconds.
This makes no sense…

7

Come on. It makes sense, an axe is much heavier than an arrow. :rofl:

Let’s live with an easier life.

8

An infantry unit shouldn’t be this ridiculously good vs buildings, it removes or limits the purpose of siege weapons.
They’ve nerfed every human unit bonus against buildings before this nonsense change to throwing axeman.

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Well, they nerf building defence as well. The purpose of siege weapons are flimsy already, in Age IV and V, unless you are heavily outnumbered, God Powers can usually be your siege solution.

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With villagers doing bonus damage against Siege if you see Fetters of Fenrir relic I recommend you get it because it increases your villagers attack and its especially good when playing against Egyptians that can go Priests and Siege Towers because it can help your villagers destroy those Siege Towers. Can’t believe I have seen tier list for this relic rate this as a F tier when extra villager attack is actually useful.