No unused/new units?

Where did my beloved Greek Cataphract go? Khopesh? Bogsveigir? Please bring them back, at least for scenario editor use!

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Kinda sad we lost those units.
All previous Definitive Editions always ported over all units, even unused ones.
This is the first case of them cutting units.
Well 2nd, they removed one cheat unit from AoE1 in AoE2RoR.

While I think it was a good decision to remove those units I do still wish they were available in the Editor because they are certainly useful assets to add variety to the Scenario Editor and they could also have been used in the official campaign too to mix up the enemy encounters so they aren’t just almost always just using the same units as you do.

The Bogsverigir is arguably still in the game and just reskinned to the Godi. They share a lot of stats. Some other units have gotten similar amounts of stat changes between AoMEE and AoMR.

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I suspect they shall return with the Chinese DLC iirc they where all added with Tales of the dragon in the expanded edition

Old scenario files are technically completely incompatible with AoMR but we can’t even manually recreate all the scenarios we made in AoMEE since some of the units are missing.
AoMEE also had some hidden units that were cut but were still usable. None of them are still in the game either.

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FE added them in EE because they used a bunch of existing files and discarded ideas from the original AOM beta. But adding them to Retold would require completely remaking them. It would be nice to get new units for the scenario editor though.

Is it because they basically remade the entire AOM on a new engine (like RoR for AOE2) instead of directly improving on the old game?

AOE3DE had models that were scrapped as early as prior to the 2005 release. But they still got remade. Very likely they just sent the whole source file bundle to the modeller without picking.

But if they planned everything from scratch, they can choose what to keep and what to discard.

I’d like to see those models remade too btw.

They should be added with updates. I kinda miss the Apep & Golem

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Not taking any side or something but this topic brought a thought to my mind: Things like cataphracts, apep or golems are things that can be used in future pantheons, gods or civilizations. Maybe they kept the not used units out this time to have the roster of aviable editor units clean to reuse ideas without overlapping with old stuff? Maybe someone understands what i mean here :smiley:
But yes, missing stuff for scenario creation that was once there is somehow sad.

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They must be saving them for the Chinese DLC so they have more content to put in that DLC…currently Retold is the remaster of the EE…