(Oranos') Oracles dont generate the proper amount of favor

  • Game Version: 18.12962

  • Build Number: 17759760

  • Platform: Steam

  • Operating System: Windows 10

Issue:

Favor generation for Oranos’ Oracles is too low… or the tech “Perception” from Leto is bugged. Either way here is the issue:

Oranos has an innate LOS bonus of +4 on all units. This also applies to (hero) Oracles, increasing the rate at which they generate favor. Oracles have 25 or 30 (hero Oracle) LOS, meaning Oranos’ Oracles do get 29 or (hero Oracle) 34 LOS.
Now lets compare this to a Gaia that takes Leto and researches “Perception”. This tech increases Oracles LOS by 10%, resulting in a total LOS of either 27,5 or 33 (hero Oracle).

So in theory, Oranos should still gain more favor on both his generic Oracles and hero Oracles…but this isnt the case in practice:

Sadly I cant post more than a single Screenshot so here is an imgur gallery instead,
(This section of the forum shouldnt really restrict users this much; 1 screenshot is not enough to showcase issues/bugs !).

==> It seems like either the tech “Perception” adds too much “hidden” LOS or there is some other buggy mechanic involved or Oranos doesnt properly get his innate LOS bonus added to his (hero) Oracles.
Either way, this should get looked into; Oranos could use some buffs anways :slight_smile:

Trigger Event:

No trigger, Oranos’ Oracles simply dont generate enough favor or Leto’s tech “Perception” is bugged and enables Oracles (from Gaia and Kronos) to generate too much favor.

Repro Steps:

  1. Start a game as Oranos and age up to 3rd age via Theia.
  2. Observe Favor generation for both basic Oracles and hero Oracles while under the tech “Prophetic Sight” and without.
  3. Start another game as Gaia and age up with Leto and Theia.
  4. Compare favor generation of Oracles and hero Oracles while under the tech(s) “Prophetic Sight”, “Perception” or without any.

Any feedback on this ? :o

This page might help you. If you do the calculations according to the formula shown on this page, you will get the following values.

  1. Oranos’ oracles without any tech: 0.07308
  2. Kronos and Gaia’s oracles with perception: 0.07339

Perception increases FullCapacityMultiplier from 1 to 1.1. That’s why Kronos and Gaia’s oracles with LoS of 27.5 generate more favor than Oranos’ oracles with LoS of 29.

Is it intended? Or should we consider it as a bug? I don’t know. Only the developers will know the truth, I just wanted to give you the formula for generating favor.

Thank you! Yea thats exactly why I wanted to get the dev’s feedback on this - the ingame tooltips make it seem like Oranos should have higher favor generation but apparently there is more stuff going on whith “Perception”. Def. needs more clarity (like many other tooltips).

I recommend you use Advanced Tooltip Mod made by Loggy. You can see the oracle info in the compendium menu.