I like upcomig patch about Ottomans changes but some changes and unchanges disappoint me. Janisarry Corps vizier point is pointless vizier point. Some say janisarry push is good but it doesnt provide Ottomans win the game. I dont like it since Ottomans released. Then now great bombard vizier point will come and this is the most absurd vizier point ever. Dear devs, I ask you, Will players use great bombard vizier point? Can players win the game using Great bombard vizier point? No, dear devs no. These vizier points will never used by players. They are so useless but they fill the Ottomans vizier points slots. Ottoman player cant play the civ full potential because of these useless vizier points. Istanbul İmperial place, Sultanhani Trade Landmark, Seagate Land marks are useless and unplayed by players as well. Ottoman player dont have so much choices in the game because of these useless vizer points and landmarks. Please remove these vizier points or rework with them, give the Ottomans useful vizier points and rework lamdmarks and give some useful tehcs.
The Jannisary vizier point might not win you the game, but it’s great for tempo. It’s a spike in units that you can take advantage of and do damage with.
Also Great Bombards are the most insane siege units after the removal of the Springald. There is no way to dodge them because they both track their targets and have splash damage. They have a ton of hp, and can be defended by the best anti-cav unit in the game.
The Vizier system is like the Home City system in AoE III, but with fixed, limited options instead of a very large, customizable selection of options. I like that they added more total Vizier options with variety of uses and don’t just all give permanent bonuses.
The Janissaries and the Great Bombard option have their uses, such as to help with defensive situations and for helping with tempo for offense. Just because they don’t give permanent bonuses like you get with other ones doesn’t mean they are useless, just like military unit shipments aren’t useless in AoE III.
Yeah in fact in aoe3 just regular military shipments are often better than shipments that provide upgrades or long term benefits, so there’s nothing wrong with vizier points that provide tempo.
Even defansive sutiations, they are useless. When I use great bombard vizier point and get great bombard, great bombard can be defaeted easly so whole vizier point is gone. So giving one GB is too little for vizier point. I suggest that if we get a gb for vizier point, devs should add permanent buff for Ottomans for the vizier point. Jans Corps should give us permanent buff too. Then I can say that they arent useless. But current game, they are so useless ever. When Ottomans released first vizier points, I write that first vizier points are bad, Cav archers should be added and jans should be reworked. With 9 season patch, We see that İ am right. Ottomans sucks. Again I say that these vizier points and Landmarks sucks. We will see that I am right.
its too late to active it
Which one are you talking about?
I only dont agree with Sultanhani Trade Network its a great landmark with safe gold income. Sea Gate Castle is good too but problem is on 1v1 establisihng trade is so hard. Istanbul Imperial Palace is just meaningles to make even with new vizier points.They need to add vizier points specisific to this landmark and they must be good.Add a 4th line of vizier points activated with this landmark and you could have only be able to choose 1 of them.They need to be good bonuses too worth to make that landmark.
It’s also a Keep now, isn’t it? I think it will find use, depending on the situation.
The fact that you think they are useless is biased
For sure they all have a place in the game for another players, playstyles, strats and so
Maybe a rework and that is it!
I am not biased I think you dont play with Ottomans and dont watch you tube videos so you dont know. If you watch youtube videos, you will see that ottoman players are desperate , dont know what to do with useless vizier points. They choose desperately one of them and they see that they are fu…
Yes, they are only useless for the players who pick them and then continue to play passively. They’re basically free resources + saved production time.
None of that.
Ottomans is indedd an Agro civ
But you can play it whatever you want
The purpose of the game is to get fun!
What can be at 4th line for Istanbul Imperial Palace :
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Blacksmith aura increase villager train speed by%15
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+1 Military school limit
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Horse archer with lower train time(i may come with better option for this one)
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For the third bonus it can be that defensive bonus with improved attack bonus because it will be special to only this landmark.Like garrisoned units attack with +4 more damage and +4 bonus damage to armoured units.Also %10 cheaper defesive buildings.
Also janissary company vizier point can be replaced by horse archer.Which it will be same attack damage with normal archers but it will be attack twice like in the beta.It will cost total 120 resource with 90 health and 1.6 attack speed with 5 range , 1.75 move speed , 17sec train speed. This point can be put to the first line for early access.
Complete non-sense. We see pro players use Jani vizier point and Great Bombard as well.
Yes they play these vizier points as they dont have any choice 
I never seen them use jani points.
Perhaps with siege being just weaker in general instanbul imperial palace might be worth it especially with more vizier point options.
And also needs to get +1 more damage with each upgrade compared to archers.It should be like that because when i look at rus horse archer its really strong with same resource.
Edit:No actually they are fine with archer damage with the stats i gave.
They have plenty of times. It’s not one of the default choices, but it has its place.