Please, Keep Vietnamese Fire Lancer HP bonus but give it to Unique Tech Chatras instead of completely removing it

I don’t think the double nerf planned for Vietnamese is justified. Before CA becoming meta, Vietnamese is terrible against cavalry civ. The buff to CA make them playable against knight Spam. Then firelancer was added to them as regional units which makes them better against cavalry so I can understand the need to nerf Vietnamese, especially their CA, but why do that to their Freelance also? Every fire lancer in the game has bonus and the Vietnamese Freelancer will be the one that has none and they aren’t even that strong due to the lack of both Blast furnace and Gambeson already.

If the bonus HP make them too good in Castle Age then My proposal is to lock it behind their Unique Tech Chatras and Increase the price of the unique tech.

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I think that’s a reasonable idea. Somehow I have a feeling that devs will give them EA in the near future that’s why they removed the HP bonus on CA as well.

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That would be a good solution. It’s really sad seeing Vietnamese having the worst Fire Lancers now but they were too oppressive in early Castle Age. Adding the HP bonus behind a UT would remove that timing but give them a answer against Cavalry that they can tech into.

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Agree thank you, it is good choice for it.

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So how about this for the bonus instead.

Foot archers and elephant units +20% HP. That way you can add all the other elephants without the terrifying fear of +100 HP mounted archers and rams running amok. +36 [44] is far more manageable than 320 HP rams at your base entrance!

It hurts the melee elephants a bit but who’s really researching Chatras? Maybe it can be +20% HP for Battle eles and Fire Lancers. The end result: Battle [and elite] wind up 10 [32] HP ahead of before enabling one whole Halb hit extra however this can cost you your Cav Archers for the slower chonky

I also agree with… I think it was Hera… that Koreans should lose elite lancer but get Gamba back for some champion legitimate gameplay Blast Furnace be danged 1 PA > +2 damage

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But maybe let charas to imperial age, and paper monney to castle age, and if only 20% charas make elephant poor ?or need something different similar with it