It’s a super boring turtle map.
The last thing people wanted to get in a 1v1 ranked pool.
Nope, Forts Map is the BEST.
I like it a lot, don’t delete it please. I like to play turtle, jeje.
Ok, I correct myself.
It should be removed from ranked map pool.
Well, the “Forts” map has lasted all of Season 6, and even survived the last January update. That being the case, it is quite likely that it will be replaced by another map for Season 7, and there are only 3 weeks left.
Only 3 weeks left, I wonder what the new rotation will be. In any case, the one I don’t like very much is “Cliffside”.
Of course, the one that seems to always be in Ranked is “Arena”, maybe for the being the iconic ranked map of the vanilla AoE II, or for being a “Open map” with few resources that serves well for quick 1vs1 matchs.
I don’t understand how fort is a turtle map. I really don’t think it is, a map like mountain pass or turtle ridge, sure…
But forts has such a tiny starting location you won’t even last to imperial without getting out. You can siege the entire base with a trebuchet just outside. And there’s almost no resources inside, also no space to build. The whole map is quite open.
i hope can remove it too。
but i dont shink its a turtle map ，most food res area is outside and hard to wall up。
i hope to remov it cause its really hard to find a place farm for byz and cn
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There are three map bans for a reason! Use them if a map is not to your preference!
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yea but you need it already for the damn water maps …
Exactly!
And cliffside, if you play Malians or Mongols, because all the stone and goldmines keep bugging for Ovoos and Pitmines.
Please DEVS I beg you, remove this map.
It’s unplayable for certain civs.
Just unplayable…
This has absolutely no right to be in a 1v1 ranked map pool.
Remove that trash asap via hotfix…
What’s the issue with the map Forts? As someone else mentioned in this topic the starting place is extremely tiny and you have to expand outside of it eventually if you want to stay alive.
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How is the map not removed from ranked pool through hotfix yet?
Certain civs are UNPLAYABLE on this map.
It restricts you so hard that many strategies, which are the core of some civs, are no applicable here.
Abbassid, Chinese or Byzantines got lierally no chance to win a match on this map.
Also Malians suffer hard here, because you just can’t cowboom.
Other civs DOMINATE on this map, which isMongol, Ayyubid, Jeanne Darc, Delhi, Hre or Zu Xhi are insanely strong.
Try playing one of the weaker ones vs the stronger ones.
It’s almost impossible to win that at even skill-level in 1v1.
I mainly play Malians and the current map-pool is just a catastrophe.
Cliffside is heavily bugged for malians, forts is a fail-design where Malians are near-unplayable and very unfun imo, so 2 vetos are gone.
3 water maps remain and Malians are trash on water.
3+2 = 5.
I dont have 5 vetos.
Please dont “necro” your own post frequently with more insults. There are many other post that need more relevance that a SPAM-POST about a random map.
First of all it’s a fact that this map is a chaotic desaster because you have this tiny prison to live in only and can’t build anything. Which makes it impossible to play for certain civs against and enemy of similar skill level.
My friends (who play 1v1 ranked as well) all hate it too and share the opinion of it being nearly unplayable.
Secondly, bullcrap is not an insult, when it comes to a map.
And the map is bullcrap, easy as that.
The map pool this season is very poor.
Cliffside is still not taken out of the ranked map pool or hotfixed, when Malians can’t build pitmines there because the gold veines are all bugging and Mongols can’t get their Ovoo.
How is this not fixed after so many months?
Seems like the support has been discontinued for this game.
I think commenting on your disagreement with a map in a single message is enough, but making a message every 3 days shuffling words to say the same thing seems like a desperate attempt to attract attention and put the topic at the top.
Also, I don’t agree with you, I like the Forts map, and in fact I’m going to vote to maintain it. Which is curious, because in Aoe2 I remember that the devs showed polls all the time to decide new maps for ranked, maybe they should do the same for AoE IV.
Yeah in AoE 2, you can vote on the new map pool every 2 weeks. In 1v1, Devs pick 4 maps (of which 3 are permanent with Arabia, Arena and MegaRandom) and they give you a selection of 9 of which the top 3 comes into the next map pool.
Personally, a static map pool such as in AoE 4 (and also 3) are one of the reasons why I don’t play those games that much in MP.
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I much prefer personal preference to some kind of community vote / pool. As we see in this thread (and others), map preference is heavily slanted towards the individual for any number of reasons (technical issues, balance for faction choice, and plain ol’ aesthetics / annoyances with the map design).
I know we’re two years in, but hopefully the map pool in IV continues to mature, and this gives both the devs and players more options in how to balance the “current” pool.
(refreshing it more often would help as well)
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Since my post was again hidden, I changed a few passages and explained why Forts is a fail-design.
It also shows in the winrations of certain civs in 1v1.
This map should not be in the ranked pool, the matchups are far more onesided than on other maps and it’s against the mechanics of certain civs, which it heavily synergizes with oppressive early harrass/all in civs.