99% of the players never buy it, they are such useless technologies for the Mongols since 99% just play aggressively by double producing.
Just remove this non-sense and add more useful military technologies.
well if you did it you would have more winrate but the community imitates what few do this right or wrong, as in Delih they do not garrison the scholars
Why remove them? Why not just tweak them so they are useful sometimes?
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Most of the stone upgrades are done in the last game, when the mongols have a lot of stone. Personally, for me, the improvement of wood in the early game is worth it, and in the last game the improvement of food is very good for pastures. Even in the new patch it will be decreased from 250 / 500 / 1000 to 150 / 250 / 500
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Even if it’s never used in 1v1, It can be used in team games.
Although i’ll admit, I dont use them much in teamgames. Imp-Forestry is usually the only thing i go for, and as Chrisinfor10 mentioned.
Upgrade them with excess stone during long haul late games and u got nothing else to use stone on.
But removing them isn’t a solution.
The fact that they are “useless” like they are now is more of a indicator that these things are out of balance, and thus needs to be adressed.
infact, Mongol’s is one of the faction with the most civ-specific issues.
Only Dheli has more.
Khaganate Palace is “useless”
Imp eco upgrades is “not practical”
Sheep carcass block if you’re forced to set up econ a different place. (if you have to many sheep carcasses it blocks from spawning new sheep, which becomes very detrimental in team games if your base gets rushed and your forced to “migrate”, your food econ will become less effective. Due to sheep carcass limitation.
Kurultai not healing friendly units, even though they get “healing icon”.
Kurultai being immensly micro intensive.
Khan Signal arrows being out-done by upcoming Mali and Ottoman “group buffs”.
Khan Signal arrows being hugely costly to upgrade. (Should scale with age instead of being a upgrade).
Mangudai heavily underperforming, compared to contemporary Cavalry Archers / Camel Archers, also an extremely costly unit.
Ger’s have tendency to not deploy at selected place at random times aftering moving Ger.
Piracy upgrade does not scale.
Siege not always triggering Bounty when putting buildings on fire.
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Mongols have good winrate in 1v1 but have you seen the pros games? always go tower rush with double production, because it’s the best you can do. It is true that economic improvements are not being investigated.
double production makes sense in dark ages. That is, for example, that justifies that in Delhi, they do not garrison the scholars, let’s see what happens: “garnishing scholars increases the speed of production of technologies”; wow how horrible now I understand why they don’t garrison them in mosques, great!