Poland Needs A Hotfix

Poland needs a nerf asap, like today if possible. its absurd in so many ways. in 1v1, treaty and team games there is nothing close to this in the games history.

from insanely fast timings with church to game ending revolts and incredible cards, they dominate everything. their eco is also the strongest in the game by far. their standard play is also great, leaving you guessing on what insane strat they will use.

guess wrong and you have an industrial army with heavies playing with your smaller age 2 army, or try to ff only to have crown jans timing wreck your base while they ff faster anyways. and those uhlans are something else.

cheaper and faster anti-cav retainers paired with flexible inbase eco also make going cav to harrass feel like wasting resources, meanwhile they have strong siege and can raid your villies, tps and buildings without being able to contest with your own heavy cav. winged hussars are a meme in comparison

or for example cossack revolt has infinite 0 micro food economy that is vastly superior to endgame lakota hunt, and it comes with a cheap but strong skirm/dragoon hybrid unit? and those vills have anti cav abilities as well incase you try to raid? ive never seen a players score inflate so fast in a real match before. numbers go vroom vroom! full villie germany wishes it could be even a quarter as good.

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The fact that most would prefer pre-nerf Ottoman to this is all you need to know.

Utterly insane.

ayer jugue una clasificatoria 2vs2 con un amigo y nuestros enemigos eran un ruso y un polaco y el polaco ni siquiera tuvo que hacer tropas,le regalaba recursos al ruso para que sacara tropas, el polaco en edad II producia 1,10 de comida por segundo en el folwark, casi lo mismo que yo cazando, no pudimos ganar con mi amigo por que el ruso nunca paro de spamear tropas, cuando nos dimos cuenta el polaco le habia regalado como 20k de recursos, fue una locura.

Until they use estampede mode to decimate any kind of infantry, villagers and tree masses.

Insanely OP, even more with explorer card

Poland cannot into space.

It doesn't seem to me at all that Poland is exceptionally strong compared to other nations, such as France or the Ottomans...

just to be clear, I am happy that the game has received an update and hopefully continues to do so. id much rather have updates with broken stuff happen than no changes at all.

just incase I sounded too negative.

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I suggested the below in another thread. I think it’d be closer to fair than what we currently have (but would obviously need some fine-tuning over time). It’s not all nerfs, because I think parts of the civ are underpowered while others are mathematically very overpowered imo. The thread has a lot of disagreement, which pushed things kinda deep into mathematical arguments. You might find it interesting.

The statistics simply do not agree.

The Poles have a 52% win rate, #10 out of 24.

Haud, Japanese, Russians, etc. are outperforming Poles. Yes, the poles have strong strategies and are likely a little overtunned, but to say they’re stronger than pre-patch Bottos is absurd. Botto was #1 in win rate and pick rate for 2 years

Calm down.

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