No. People can hold a discussion on little information. Are you mad?
You ARE spamming. You are replying to almost every person stating something without what you interpret as “lack of information”. Even though we can assume this to be the case, even you don’t know that.
Let people discuss. Stop telling them to wait. It is the same as telling them to not discuss.
I’m beginning to think you don’t want me to speak soley because I don’t agree with you. Is this the case?
Yes, I disagree with your opinion that we should “wait (be silent)” until developers say something new.
Not much of an opinion.
It’s not that I think you should be silent. I think that the people asking for change before having information are actually presenting a weak opinion, and would have a stronger more compelling argument with more information. I believe this is the truth. As a great wizard once said: I am not trying to rob you, I am trying to help you.
If you can iterate all possibilities and none of them works, you don’t need to “wait for more information”.
Almost nobody questioned “Order of the Dragon” because we could foresee how it would work in the game.
“Sultan’s Army” whatever it represents can always have a better and more specific name. If it’s Saladin’s period then Ayyubids. If later period then Mamluks. If it’s a longer time span then Egyptians. If it covers a wider geographic region then Levantine Sultanates.
“Jeanne d’Arc”, according to you the name is so associated with gameplay that changing it may ruin everything, YOU should be against this “civ” if it is NOT solely Jeanne d’Arc as a single unit. Otherwise there is always a better name.
“Empire of Jade” does not work in any scenario.
So where is your scenario that they work?
I hope you at least come up with a coherent opinion or agenda.
If you want to keep people waiting, at least you should give a reason why they should wait and what they could expect no?
You are not acknowledging your actions. You could have stated this once, yet you choose to repeatedly respond to multiple people the exact same thing. And mind you, you’re not just stating a simple opinion. Your opinion explicitly requests them to essentially not voice their opinions any more.
Again. Had you voiced this once into the void, whatever. You’re however stating this to just about everyone. This is spamming and it is doing so in bad faith. Respect people’s right to discuss and stop this crusade of yours.
When a moderator has that discussion with me, then I will answer to that authority. In the meantime, this is a discussion between peers. Nothing more.
I have an option why the Age of Noob says that the Empire of Jade is the best and no alternative option.
In his video, he says what he agrees with the community. And even thanks our friend @Xefjord1 at the end of the video for the suggested names. The House of Luxembourg is better than the Order of the Dragon, Mamluks and Ayyubids are better than the Sultan’s Army, the Duchy of Orleans is better than Jeanne d’Arc. But only the Empire of Jade is good. Why?
It seems to me that the open names of civs may still turn out to be placeholders. Real names are hidden behind them. The Age of Noob knows about them. And maybe these real names are also are not good. For example: Order of the Dragon (Hungary), the Sultan’s Army (Egypt), Jeanne d’Arc (Paris). That is, there are normal names there, but the community has came up with much better names. He compares the House of Luxembourg not with the Order of the Dragon, but with some other real name. And perhaps only the Empire of Jade has a good real name initially. Maybe it’s just that no one knows Chinese history well 
The only possibility I can think of is it’s the same few dynasties and time/geographical span as the Chinese civ, but with a different focus.
Then you can’t call it anything like a real sub-faction, a group of peoples or a geographical location. They have to call it a “skin” of the Chinese civ.
Even in that case there are better names.
For example “Chinese (Empire of Jade or whatever focus it is)” is at least better than a standalone “Empire of Jade” name next to “Chinese”.
Not to mention there are many far better names for skins as well.
If it’s just another generic Chinese civ with a different focus, and where jade is heavily used in the aesthetics…please no.
On the other hand I still cannot think of a single Chinese faction or region that was called that, or had such an outstanding icon of jade.
If it’s on one of the regions where jade was a main export and the gameplay really centered around it (odd choice still as no real significant faction did it), just use that region’s name.
TLDR: if it’s generic there are better names. If it’s specific there are better names. If it’s stereotypical then the design is simply bad.
So there still should be a more fitting name. Just they can’t come up with an alternative for the alternative.
He used to criticize the game freely and was very on point, now I dont trust age of noob anymore since he was invited to to play the game the expansion before release.
I would prefer the option of people that are outside that thing and that people is the community.
he did but he did it worst because nobody wants the e sport focus which is allowing some decision instead on fixing basic thing liek the ui that was basically an issue from release
you shouldnt since start He made some valid crticism when the game was on beta almost reasy to release which is unancceptable but on that moment he got accepted as insider and his opinion twisted
He still does it and does so in this exact video by providing alternate names for the civ variants.
The reason Age of Noob didn’t comment on the Empire of Jade suggestion, is most likely because it was heavily inspired from a real polity in history that is NOT the Empire of Jade (Which never existed), and giving a name suggestion, would break NDA and tell everyone what that real world inspiration is.
Note, this does not mean that the Empire of Jade name is the best fit, or supported in history, it means they have have an undeniably better choice that they opted away from when giving them all more ambiguous names. Which is a good thing!
Also I don’t know if Age of Noob gave me special thanks for any of the civilization names, for the fact I tried to share with him poll results on twitter, or if it is just because I am his highest donated channel member, but I don’t want to take too much credit, the House of Valois idea was his own for the Duchy of Orleans, and I actually thought it was pretty good, and he was already consolidating poll data before he ever saw my tweet. Even still I do appreciate it.
In any case, it turns out that the names are placeholders. If that’s the case, then that’s very good.
They aren’t, however devs recently posted how they have heard the communities feedback to variant names and addressing it is their “top priority” so maybe we actually got them to change the names.
I think it’s important for us to first hear them out, their reasoning and planning behind the name decisions for these variants, and then we can provide the developers with feedback if we still want to change the names so they are in more line with the original civilizations.
A final assumption of the civ variants, Dont wanna make another post on this matter as many posts were made so Im just gonna share my thoughts here. I think the civ variants are actually representation of multiple historical factions . Let me explain :
There was none that were referred as “empire of jade”. Jade emperor existed in the literature as first god in chinese mythology.
Jade was part of chinese history through many different dynasties and during different dynasties it had different purposes
In Zhou dynasty it was used to show different levels of government positions.
In Han Dynasty rulers saw jade as something that could grant immortality.
Through different dynasties Jade had deep roots to chinese emperor and rulers. It was also used in decorative or daily use items.
I’ts about equivalent to empire of gold or empire of diamonds, a natural resource. According to Age of Noob, he wasn’t able to give a suggestion for an alternate name for the Chinese civ variant because it would break NDA (since it would make it too obvious what historical figure or dynasty this was based around).
Still a lame name, but I could get over it