The European union is not one culture
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Okay, lets please not get political
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Itâs the result of several merger and civ discussion tend to be hot debates anyway for various reasons.
One of the most popular topics in those forums actually. Wondering why this thread doesnât get pinned but yeah.
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It didnât help anyone when a bunch of different threads were combined into this one. So really no comment is off topic if there are 100 topics in here
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But there is no such thing as a uniform, cohesive âEuropean cultureâ in that time period (itâs arguable that there is one even today but thatâs irrelevant).
I get it that many people are mostly familiar with the stereotypical, âknights and kingsâ types of states prevalent in Western and Central Europe, but thatâs just one of many types of societies that existed in Europe during the middle ages.
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I wish they make an official reskin mod like the one Estrelina Hill uploaded which hasnât been updated since last year. So many scenario units with similar stats and would love for the Savar to replace the War Elephant.
I join the Cumans topic. Although I appreciate their addition because I learnt something new about them I do not see them as Europeans. Their nomadic life is typical of middle Asia. They were just pushed into Europe, they didnt want to accept Christianity, build castles, form feudal statesâŠ
Huns arent Europeans as well for me. Mongols is another such an example.
With some time gone I would maybe prefer some civs should be dropped from AoE2. Huns and Cumans are probably those which I would vote for. This is food for thought 
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Cherokees would be nice
Actually it does not. Asians regularly purged records, which is why there are so many lost civilizations in Asia, that were only found through Archaelogy.
Africa did not write most of itâs History. it was mostly oral, which is not only unreliable (gets mythical and divergent very quickly) but also easilty forgettable, as ethnic groups can be supressed to the point they lose their own culture, and non-written History with it.
Europe has the most recorded History, by far, which is why History is often called an âeuropean scienceâ.
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Harappan Script remains undeciphered to this date. And probably lot of other Asian stuff.
Lack of effort put by the historians maybe or just bad luck.
It is nigh impossible if it is not similar to any known language and has no comparison such as with rosetta stone.
If I was historian I would not waste my time 
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No, it is just that related languages went extinct, and there is not that much Harappan scripts to compare them to, in order to decipher, because Harappan records were brutally purged by the peoples that conquered them.
The very first people to actively preserve the records of those they conquered, were the Greeks, because they believed that it would help them understand, and rule over, their conquests better.
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Actually it would be better to leave this thread to die and start a new one. Basically this thread is a giant pile of mess and with no useful conclusion. The poll is also quite useless as it doesnât include a bunch of options that people want, and has a bunch of options that are just wild.
Moreover, There are 1563 replies with an estimated read time of 233 minutesâŠ
No oneâs gonna read all of this.
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Exactly. We do not even know what cause their culture to go extinct, we just know that the Harappans went into a lot of battles at the theoretical tail-end of their rule.
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It doesnât say the texts were âbrutally purgedâ Does it?
They went into a lot of wars, at the end, and the norm was to try to completely destroy any previous record of the conquered people, back then, to stop claims to the throne and revolts.
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too much exaggeration from your side.
Not at all. It is what everyone did in the Bronze Age, and before.
For example, historical records almost everywhere in the world only really start becoming reliable, from Classic Antiquity onward, because Classical civilizations stopped purging records, for the most part.
It also coincides with Alexanderâs Macedon and Rome, both Classical cultures that were renown for historical preservation, even of their enemies.
Mosty of what we know from the Celts, for example, was written by Romans.
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I agree most records of history were always destroyed by invaders. The delhi sultanate destroyed nalanda university destroying many historical documents.even today we could see this with the taliban and isis.
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