Wouldn’t even say so. They may be behind in the early game but at later stages they even might be strongest water civ. But I agree no need for nerfing them on water. Just remove the stupid featoria 11 Regardless of if it’s op on islands that building is just bad by it’s very design.
Imo they are totally fine on land. Ofc not single best civ but with cheaper gold units and faster techs works pretty well on virtually all map types. I’d say they perform “worst” on hybrid maps (compared to stuff like arabia or arena) but since they are really powerfull on full water I don’t see a problem with that.
Portugiese don’t exist in vacuum. I agree that just nerfing their water will cause Italian viking only meta again. But In my opinion all 3 civ need nerfs on water to open up the meta anyway .
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They are carried by their eco bonus, not only on island but any map they are competitive Thx to this. Its the best eco bonus in the game.
Some options:
A. Wheelbarrow and hard cart a free but not researched instantly.
B. researched instantly bit not free
C. 50% cheaper and 50% faster researched
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Itlains.
Getting cheaper fish boats, cheaper ballistic, cheaper age up is already enough to be competitive on warer
Just scrap the cheaper Dock techs entirely!
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Ports are only too good in imp with feitoria laming and the most tank boats in game plus caravel. So they just need a nerf here
Replace carracks UT
Result:
Now suddenly water meta is is turmoil and everything could be viable. Korea meta, byz meta, maybe we finally see Saracen or Berber. Of course Italians, vikings, ports woild still be up there. But just not so far ahead they make other choices unviable.
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So I’ve gone and seen the stats for the most played water map in the game, Archipelago. Portuguese have a 47.10% winrate there… But hey, you heard the pros! There is no need for a Ports buff, herp derp!
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