So basically the Franks or the Bulgarians.
The main issue with Poles, is that the civ would just end up being either an OP or UP copy of an already existing European civ.
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Again Lithuanians.
Then Saracens canât cover all of muslim factions because their model is too âMamlukâ and Persians canât cover Khwarezmians and Persianates because they are too âSassanidsâ.
the thing is some civs are designed and inspired by more specific states (Kievan Rus to Slavs and Golden Horde/Timurids to the Tatars), but they indeed want to cover all of the similar states and dynasties that where either succesors or predeccesors.
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I am not going to get into any further debate, but I will only say that I am saddened at how little they know about South American civilizations. Regards.
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Bohemians and Poles could be one civ; the Wends.
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When adding new civs we should at least look at civs for which we have enough historical information, and civs which had an organized major kingdom during the AOE2 time frame at the very least. Iroquois, Pueblans, Mississipians, Polynesians might not fit this description. Mapuche might be possible. Also some civs like Swahili, Congolese, Great Zimbabwe might be better included under umbrella civs; the Bantu. Generally, a new civ needs to be able to be different enough from existing civs.
The best candidates are Tibetans (Tibetan Empire), Dravidians (Chola empire), Bengals (Pala Empire, Bengal Sultante), Afghans (Ghurid +Ghazvanid empires), Jurchen (Jin Empire). Sahels (Kanem empire). All these have enough historical information and are major medieval empires.
I would like to see other civs like the Bantu, Wends, Georgians, Armenians, Vlachs and Thai. Maybe Burgundians and Mapuche.
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from this stand point Georgians and Armenian are covered by Byzantines and Persians.
Agree a blanket Bantu civi to represent all the south African civs is fine.
Well game has 4 nomad civis which could easily be covered by mongols.Considering Sinhaleese Afgans or Bengals as indian is like saying china can cover Korea Japan and Mongols.
Deccan area with light cavalry and sinhaleese with guns and gurrilla tactics.
If a blanket civ for Bantu is fine, we have to remove two thirds of the civ ingame and put in the Indoeuropeans instead.
Just donât.
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I too would love to see actual representations of people/cultures but as per many anything outside europe is unknown and boring.
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http://community.weber.edu/weberreads/iroquois_confederacy.htm
I really do think that theyâd be great and arenât covered at all by civs we have in the game. And if the devs decide to include them, they should include them properly, not half-baked âBantuâ or âSahelâ civs.
Iâm done with this discussion. I thoroughly explained my points and it seems those discussion always turn into a bickering contest.
Have a nice day.
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Thank you for proving my point. Cultures like Pueblans, Tongans and Mississipians might not be appropriate for AOE2. If they are ever included I wonât protest of course.
My point is simple: If new civs are ever added, the devs should focus on well established medieval empires that have not been included yet.
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And Tupis and Dutch and thatâs all for me 
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And also new civ - Iroquis
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Iroquois founded in 16th century, and is clearly outside of AOE2 timeline
Aruacans are fitting as they were the ones âdiscoveredâ by Columbus in 1400s
But in editor aoe2 de is iroquis warrior,
by Wiki Iroquis was established im 1450 
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No it was founded from anywhere between 1450 to 1600, and 1450 onwards is also beyond Aoe2 acope
Aoe2 barealy reaches 1500
America will get represntation with the more appropriate ARUACANS
Iroquois and Mississipians do fit the description. We even know of famous chieftains and wars on the 14th and 15th centuries.
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The Confederations was founded in 1450, and reached itâs greatest extent in the 1600s.
We know the Iroquois started confederating in the 1450 at the hands of a man called the Peacemaker, who was actually a warlord.
From the Wiki:
" The Iroquois League was established prior to European contact, with the banding together of five of the many Iroquoian peoples who had emerged south of the Great Lakes.[39][a] Many archaeologists and anthropologists believe that the League was formed about 1450,[40][41] though arguments have been made for an earlier date.[note1 1] One theory argues that the League formed shortly after a solar eclipse on August 31, 1142, an event thought to be expressed in oral tradition about the Leagueâs origins.[42][43][44] Some sources link an early origin of the Iroquois confederacy to the adoption of corn as a staple crop.[45]"
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With which existing civs did they have contact? Any famous battles?
Vikings, allegedly. Aztecs had no contact with any other civ either, until the Spanish and the Mayans were introduced in the same expansion.
From the Wiki:
" The dates Dekanawida lived, and thus the founding of the Confederacy, have not been identified with certainty. Historians and archeologists have researched an incident related in the oral history of the founding of the Confederacy. As recorded by later scholars, one account relates there was a violent conflict among the Seneca, who were the last Iroquois nation to join the confederacy as a founding member. Their violence stopped when the sun darkened and the day seemed to turn to night. Since 1902 scholars have studied the possibility that this event was a solar eclipse, as William Canfield suggested in his Legends of the Iroquois; told by âthe Cornplanterâ"
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