Evey chat is a new thing to teach you, ohh well here we go, we are here to educate after all.
A god having its best chance of winning on a map doesnt translate in that god also being the best at it. Also, take current winrates from japan in maps with water sures with a grain of salt since the bug makes it a free win when people exploit it.
The cutoff is always subjetive, that said, it funny your vision of high level is 1300
I love how people make up insults to excuse their lack of skill. If a player plays safe and smart hes “coward” or “not a man” Its liek anyone that puts 2 braincells in playing the game and knows how to play something besides A move has to be called something to equalize the balance of things. Sure, if it makes you feeel better, people that play the game better than you have that quality.
Agreed, dunno why theres takes that bans dont work when its kind of a cornerstone of most games (map bans/champion bans, etc etc).
This sentence alone shows you dont understand how eAPM is calculated. Repetitive actions are not accounted for in the count.
That’s right, no one will invest in water in a 1v1 game, but in 3v3 it works. That’s why Amaterasu only wins on Setonaikai, and elsewhere she has a 38% win rate in team games. This doesn’t contradict what I said about Japan on the water. In Anatolia, you can fight on land, so Amaterasu has a low win rate there too, but in Setonaikai, Lightning ships can carry the base. That’s where Amaterasu starts to win. I’m generally surprised at how conveniently you ignore everything I show you. My screenshots show that Amaterasu wins team games ONLY on setonaikai
Nothing will change like that, don’t you understand? People will vote for Ghost Lake and Valley of Kings, and you’ll only play those maps because there are no players in the queue for the other maps who want to play them.
I don’t give a shit how they play. They ban ladder maps, that’s the reason for my negative attitude. They are afraid of water, as if everyone had rabies.
Yea, like i said, the fact that thats the map amaterasu does better at, doesnt mean that amaterasu is the best god in that map. Those 2 things are not bound to be true at the same time. She wins games in all maps, i know what you mean is the only has a positive winrate in setonaikai.
A good example is Thor, his ships are the strongest in the game because they get arsenal upgrades earlier than everyone else, but it still doesn’t have the ability of a late-game ultra unit with divine multi-target damage that spreads across half the army. (By the way, Thor also has ice drakks, that’s why he has good stat, but this not so deadly)
You love talking about high-level play. Here’s an example.
And there will be 15 of them. How will you counter? (Age 2 rush does not count)
This is where you misunderstand me. I don’t want to BAN maps, I want to play them all, and I’ll only play the ones voted for. So, the community will choose five maps, and I’ll play only them. Because in order to play on any map, there must be players who voted for it. Understand that you will be playing on the Sentonakai, Midgard and Anatolia maps only in December. (I’m expecting the answer “that’s what I’m trying to achieve”)
Thats not the reason why thou, its the ramp on military production with the help of docks and skadi upgrade. Greek similarly benefits from the eco boost that allows mass hoplites in water maps, and restoration for the water fight
Amaterasu also benefits from being able to spam the weasle MU with the extra food income
Sure, if you talk about the best potential late game scenario maybe but thats not how you look at things in a game. I could make the scenario that when i get 50 mass of onmioji theres really nothing to stop it, but thats not realy how competent games go most of the time. Sure, in an FFA or 12 player lobby go for it but thats not the norm.
Well yea, it would be odd to talk about balancing the game for the level of people still learning it, at least in my opinion.
As hilarious as the SoO boats nickname is, they arent as strong as a soO (duh ofc) with the nerfed they got they are strong but no longer invicible. Also its kinda dumb imo you want to exclude Age 2 investment when specially on maps like setonaikai you can be severely punished if you try a fast heroic since boats can gold starve you as well unlike anatolia.
Its a dps increase (due to the chaining attack, 1 vs 1 its a dps loss until the target has > 60% armor) but not the invincible concept you associate it with.
Ah, you could have said it right away.
Anyway. Your proposal to punish players for leaving the lobby is still very bad. People will still leave when they see a guy with 800 Elo on their team. They’ll just get penalted now and end up the game entirely.
When they do that in game they will loose elo. Currently you can just dodge the game and not even loose elo. Elo is kinda of a meme but still some people tend to care enough for it to stop restarting the game becasue the map they dont like got selected.
Which becomes a deterrant, if you have to wait until you play again you will think twice before just calling it quits, you still have the choice of doing it if you think is a better use of your time, but dunno if incentivizing being able to play 1/4-5 games you get because you didnt like X factor is good design.
He will never understand your situation because they (premade teams) never plays with random low-ELO players on his team , he only plays with premade teams. That’s why he wants sanctions for random players who leave the lobby: he wants it to be easier for him (premade teams) to gain ELO points. He knows very well that with a premade team on water maps they can win a match in less than 15 minutes. That’s why they (premade teams) want to force random players to play water maps with them. It’s not enough for him to already have a fully balanced team , they (premade teams) want even more advantages, while you and other random players are always forced to play at a disadvantage, but now also with sanctions.
I dont think you grasp the idea that @Urban_Hunter doesnt want map bans and would play water.
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Im advocating for map bans thou (which would lead to less water maps overall since they are not popular in the community, even thou i do like them). You seem so filled of hatefulness towards me it seems you cant read properly or grasp that you are arguing against what you rant about.
It’s just a “certain user” being mono-thematic again. Everything is an excuse to cry about premade team cause he cant have friends (wonder why!). After “we” (we who?), the “c0wards”, “silenced” him telling moderators that there was four threads about the same topic, he started to use water maps as an excuse to cry a river for not having friends.
