Rename Portuguese Legion Dragoon

There are some hilariously bad names for Royal Guard units in this game. Italy, Dutch, Portugal.

I was wondering if a better name for the Legion Dragoon of Portugal would be caçadore a cavalo and if anyone thinks this is a better name for a RG.


I would like something different from Caçadores a Cavalo, it makes me think of a Caçador with a dismount ability like the Mounted Infantry instead of a dragoon.

I tried to look up something that could used for a RG Portuguese Dragoon, and the best I found was Dragões de Olivença, it’s a Dragoon Regiment founded in 1707 quartered close to the frontier, but someone more knowledgeable about portuguese military history might come up with something better.

They could just do as we did in WoL and call them Lusitano Dragoons.

Weren’t those guys Spanish?

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oops your right. I meant these guys. But they are kinda just the Portuguese Legion all over again.

Yeah and no! The Loyal Lusitanian Legion (which was an a British foreign corp mainly full of Portuguese volunteers during the Napoleonic War) had some dragoons but we’re talking mainly some dispatch riders. But it is a legit link!

The entirely different Lusitanian Dragoons were a more famous Spanish dragon regiment, prominent during the seven years war.

It does say something (and makes me laugh) that a famous Royal Guard guise for Port Dragoons is quite hard to place.

It’s bad enough that one of their unique units is just a random multi barrel gun that doesn’t scream Portuguese.

I always thought from the original iteration that the OG Devs gave up with the Euro research when they got to the Ports :laughing:

I was referring the link to the Lusitanian Dragoons (guys in yellow), not the LLL.

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It’s either them, the Chaves/Trás-os-Montes Dragoons (though the later might be a bit of a mouthful) or Alorna’s Legionario. They should also rename the Musketeer into a Fuzo, aka the nickname that the Portuguese give their Marine Corps. As a matter of fact, I had already made these same proposals back in one of my previous posts and it had a decent amount of traction.

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Lusitano is another name for the Portuguese, like “Anglos” for the English.

It comes from the Lusitanians

The portuguese guard skin is based on the chasseur à cheval from the portuguese legion that served under Napoleon. We can criticize this choice, but the name is fitting. In addition, Chasseur à cheval is more fitting to how dragoons function in the game than réal dragoons (medium-to-heavy cavalery during this time period).

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Or mounted infantry earlier. I agree with you about the chasseurs. I was just suggesting the name be changed to something a little more Portuguese.

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But why should that be the Portuguese Royal Guard when they served the enemy of the Portuguese Crown.

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That’s an exellent question ! :slight_smile:

I believe the main problem with portuguese, is that their army was really mediocre in the second half of the 18th century.

In 1762 with the war against Spain/France, the Count of Schaumburg-Lippe discovers a terrible army, with less than 10 000 able soldiers.

When Napoleon invaded Portugal in 1807, the state of the army was also mediocre. The portuguese legion is believed to only encompasses the best of the Portuguese army.

What I like with Dragon of the legion is that It can refers to the Alorna’s Legion of Light Troops (Legião de Tropas Ligeiras), an experimental all-light force (even though it only included hussars and not dragoons).

Honestly, I don’t believe that to be a good enough reason. While most of what you said is true, I don’t think a Legion that fought for Portugal’s enemies is a good representation of the nation. Also, Napoleonic France’s first invasion of Portugal was successful more due to the majority of Portugal’s best generals being francophile Free Masons then the quality of the army being mediocre. Really there’s absolutely no reason to keep these Royal Guards as they aree right now, since they don’t represent the country at all.

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I didn’t know about this, but I’m sure most nobles running away from Portugal to Brazil and leaving their people to die helped in that.

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The enemy from within theory (whether it be Free Mason, or other persecuted groups) is often used to justify military fiasco. Most of the time, it does not make any sense.

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There’s a point to made though that if you want to find portuguese military units with an actual decent track record you’d have to start checking the colonies… but nobody does that.

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This is so blatantly false that I don’t even know where to begin.

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What are some good Portuguese units from Portugal proper? I’m genuinely curious, as I do not know much about the particularities of the early modern Portuguese military. Any that would make good royal guards?

Besides the examples I gave above, you have the Lippe Infantry, the Lanceiros da Rainha, the Mecklenburg Cavalry, the Terço dos Aventureiros, the Terço da Armada and all it’s successors and the Tavira Infantry. You also had the Academic Batallions that could potentially be used as a reference for a Card.

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