Reviewing the public test notes are extremely disheartening. For a civ with a 45% win rate, it is incredible how many further nerfs relic feels it needs. The civ identity for china is, apparently, jack of all trades but terrible at everything.
A few of the changes below:
Imperial spies now track traders and ships
Granary, Pagoda, and village available one age earlier
Granary bonus reduced to 10% from 15%
Pagoda resource generation 150/min instead of 300/min
village cost from 100 wood to 125 wood
imperial officials cost 50g 100f instead of 150f
imperial officials 50% less effective in supervision
Imperial officials train in 30 seconds instead of 20 seconds
Taking the pagoda as an example: why would anyone pay 1200f/600g to get to castle age, then pay another 1200f/600g to get to Yuan dynasty, then pay 150w to build the pagoda, then hunt relics, all to generate 150 resources per minute… At that rate, even if you get 2 or 3 relics, it will take 10 mins+ to pay off. Alternatively, pick HRE and get 600g/min for 2 relics and pay off your castle age within 3 mins.
We have the LOWEST win rate civ across every game mode, and every ELO getting overall nerfs. To me, the obvious result will be either a) nobody plays china at all why would you or b) the only viable strategy is barbican rushing every game and praying you get to bombards after because you can’t pick any other civ, all of which are clearly superior
China can’t boom like Abbasid
China can’t pressure like England/France/Mongols
China can’t tech rush like HRE
The only thing China IS good at is playing single player civilization and building a pretty city under no pressure. The civ needs a game plan that is actually viable and threatening to other civs the way royal knights, or longbows, or HRE booms are a threat. Currently, that is not the case at all, and China can only be dangerous when left alone for 30 mins+ in huge team maps… and even then is STILL inferior to Abbasid under those conditions.
I switched off of china with the first nerfs, and definitely will not be coming back from playing the mongols now. Why would I ever do that?