Serjeants - the ultimate Teutonic Huskarls

doesn’t make them a siege civ, they have solid siege as is.
if infantry and siege are supposed to go hand in hand, how come Malians have worse siege then Sicilians? what about the Japanese Siege?

serjeants are made from a 200 stone building and man at arms are made from the bloody barracks.

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Kataparuto Trebs are great, I do not know how you can think Japanese have weak Siege, seacially when they get Siege Engineers.

Probably because they have better Cavalry (Heavy Camel + Farimba).

everything that isn’t a treb is painfully mediocre for japanese. and they are hardly the only infantry with civ with middle of the road siege. my point was that he seems to think every infantry civ is by default a siege civ, and that is false. goths being another prime example. Vikings siege is pretty much par for what Sicilians get, according to SauravT, they should get some sort of siege buff, Same with Incas.

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Infantry is weak to archers and counters buildings. What I say about Siege is mostly Onagers and Scorpions to counter foot units and an option to counter opponent siege as well.

  1. Goths overwhelm infantry with Champions, counter Scorpions and Archers with Huskarls and are weak against Siege Onagers, thanks to their subpar Hussars.

  2. Japanese counter infantry with own superior infantry and counter siege with Trebuchets. They are poor at countering archers, but then again they have Onagers + SE.

  3. Incas have Onagers, Heavy Scorpions and SE. Incas also have Eagles which is the ultimate infantry counter to siege and Incan Eagles are too archer resistant.

  4. Vikings have the same story except lacking a good means to counter siege units and this is visible in Fatslob games where the deathball of Onagers, Elite Berserks, Heavy Scorpions and Skirmishers is quite ineffective and boring to watch.

  5. Malians have Archer resistant infantry and Siege Onagers to counter massed Cavalry Archers and sometimes even foot archers. Bombard Cannons, although subpar, and Farimba Cav to counter siege. Countering Infantry is tough with mainstream options - should go for micro with Gbetos or Hand Cannoneers.

lol what? you know what one of the best answers to fighting goths is? the champion.

no, they use archers to counter infantry, which are miles more cost effective then just using their own infantry.
they also have elite skirms to counter archers.

just like Sicilians. gasp. so why do they need another tech for it?

you can’t be serious. first of all SO is painfully expensive, and second of all, using SO against a unit that can split very fast? GLWT

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