Sloppy grudge threads need to stop

Yeah I’m telling you it’s going over your head.
You try to play an ego shooter, but it’s chess. You need to understand what moves the people you attack have to get the win.

Are you by chance one of the Devs of the game masquerading as a player?

It’s a dumb question to ask, but your behaviour feels a bit suspicious, especially considering how you feel offended on behalf of complete strangers you never met on issues they are at fault over. Like you have some emotional connection to this entire situation.

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Interesting take but no.

I just have a very analytical sense and insight of a lot of different systems.

Be aware, are looking in the forum, but they would never do such a thing, because as i told before, they are in responsible positions. It’s not a play they can pull off, because the risks are way, way too high.

Game developers are at the end of day human beings and will act on emotions at times. I remember when the Highguard situation happened one of the Developers of that game got angry and lashed out on social media because people didn’t like their game.

Something similar could be happening here, since the Devs obviously put a lot of effort into 3K and had some logical reasons for thinking it would be a success. Then feel distraught over the fact it had a mixed reception at best to poor reception at worst.

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OFC. A lot of devs will have been devastated after the lashback for 3K.

But question to you: Would you in this situation seek the exact platform where you got that negative feedback after you put so much own effort in? 99 % of the people i know won’t and the 1 % who would try to “crash the party” would never, never do such a job.

And this will be the last response of me in that direction. And I didn’t do that because I wanted to “defend” me or whatever. I did it to give you a little bit of insight shared so you can see why i posted this stuff before and how i got to that analysis.

It’d certainly go a long way at least.

Also not buying DLCs. Last DLC I bought was V&V and I regret it.

If they want to lie to us then I’m not going to spend my money on their DLCs. Simple as that.

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Well, at least if they complain, they are not quitting. It is more important to stop players from quitting the game imo. The community seems to be smaller.

Are they actually?
In many cases I doubt it actually. The things they complain about aren’t the issues we need to discuss right now.
It#s completely possible they aren’t even playing the game. Nothing what they talk about has anything to do with the current game state.

And with their way of spamming all the time and everywhere always the same nonsense they just obstruct the important constructive discussions. Actuaclly INCLUDING the discussion about how future DLCs can work, sell, be liked…

It’s just completely blocking the forum and it’s important funciotns, the discussion and at least naming what the real issues are.

And useless btw, because what they demand just won’t happen.

PS: By this time I need to actually throw up the question if this was actually the plan from the getgo. Every sensible person should have gotten the memo that what they demand won’t happen and moved on. I asked from the begiining the question what their actual goal was because it just doesn’t work with their actions. So either they are really completley not getting it or it actually IS their intention to obstruct the constructive exchange with the devs.

1: It’s not blocking anything. There can be any number of threads on here.

2: The point of a forum is discussion, that’s it. If you don’t like the discussions going on in a thread, you don’t have to get involved in it.

Pointing out what one does not like is useful towards this. You can see the devs have been more open with the contents of the DLC after being more obtuse before.

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Well, look at this thread. It was very healthy had alot of really constructive input befor you guys jioned it and made it yet another wasteland.
And other important threads just get washed down because of the spamming on other grudge threads.

But I sure you now that already.

I sure can tell you that devs react way, way more to constructive feedback across all platforms than your hate. And the way they did TLC actually reflects that. The things they did is a reflection of what they collected from all the constructive posts.
Don’t claim a success on you you are not part of! It’s disrespectful towards the parts of the community who is actually positively contributing!

And I can tell you that because I READ a lost of these positive contributions and see the reflections in TLC. It has absolutely nothing to do with your hate. zero.

(And btw it would be stupid from the devs if they would react more to negative contributions. Cause then everybody who tries to get something in would make it a competition of shitposting. It’s like in real life, if you want something from others it’s usually the best way to be nice to them…)

What in the Samhain hades is this topic even ABOUT!?

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Looks at the Champi debacle

Are you sure they react better towards positivity than negativity?

I’m getting really tired of this…

1: When I make posts, I make suggestions on how to fix things, or the exact issues. You claim you read positive posts, so perhaps you just haven’t read mine in detail. But I go into a lot of it myself to try and find solutions that are the most palatable to the largest amount of people. Because leaving things in a state where people hate it is not good in the long run.

2: I’m currently working on a mod to add 5 civs, 6 campaigns with voice lines for the new civs. Is that a positive enough contribution for you?

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Get that garbage out of here. It has no place in a forum about video games, even if said video game includes different ethnic groups.

This is a great expression. I’m stealing this.

We all are. I don’t know how, but he just went crazy somewhere down the road. He was nice a few years ago when we all participated in a civ design contest.

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Interestingly after it started nice - actually way better than i expected - it unfortunately was taken over and now is a grudge thread as so many before.

Currently it’s the unfortunate reality in this forum, that we can’t do anything against it being completely wasted from a few who refuse to change anything about their interaction with the other community members.

Well the ones i read from you weren’t really constructive. A lot of demands of stuff that ain’t gonna happen because it only reflects a very specific positional view and would offend a lot of people actually. So… not really my sense of “constructive”.

Maybe you should just stick to that and ignore the public games if you don’t like their take on things you have so specific views on.

In comparison I think I am actually one of the nicer persons here… thanks for pointing that out actually.

I very much disagree, and this thread demonstrates it.

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Samhain hades?

20 characters.

Did you not expect the people you were being rude about not to respond?

So my opinion is to be stifled?

I’d check the reviews for 3K before being so confident that it’s just my views. Plenty of angry reviews in many languages on there.

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I don’t see a lot of threads recently. The sub forum is much quieter than before honestly. So I don’t think there is any spamming.

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Yeah…all of them at once. Now the Champi is useless.

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No, you’re actually being rude to anyone who disagrees with you. You can respectfully disagree with someone while being nice. Your very reply to me demonstrates your adversarial and antagonistic attitude.

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