So, Relic is moving on to something new, while World's Edge is procrastinating?!

unit management in position to me is not micro. thats macro, grand startegic view- and yes I think CoH has more of that. or its mor eimportant there. the game is more strategic

and yes of course, i was talking about highest level. I never use split command, i play casually oly. And there micro is not as important as in CoH thats ture. Probaly another reason I dont like CoH as much :smiley:

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I’m not really a fan of disney anymore (used to be when I was littler) but I am a fan of Star Wars and everything related to it. The latest show, “Bad Batch” looks extremely good, especially for a cartoon.


This doesn’t look cartoonish to me at all, looks gritty and realistic

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Look, we have here one of the leaders of Microsoft is sitting on the forum. Otherwise, I do not understand how an ordinary person who does not know about the state of the game at the moment, who has not played the final build, can say this. In general, I notice a nasty tendency on this forum, to pass a verdict on a game that has not yet been released, as if the gurus of game journalism and experts in game creation had gathered here. You are just random guys from all over the world, you have neither specific knowledge in this area, nor the necessary experience, and even people with knowledge and experience never evaluate what they have not seen. And then you say that my posts are full of hate, of course, they are full of hate, because every time I go to the forum and see comments like that, I’m angry, because I don’t understand how people can be so impenetrable, why in their heads simple thoughts do not linger, why they do not want to hear logical arguments that for some reason are clear to the majority.
Seriously, I specifically went to the AoE 2 and AoE 3 forums, and you know what? Is there the same thing, what’s wrong with the fans of the AoE series? It seems to me that it’s not about the game anymore …

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That went bit personal. But agree should not judge it before beta. For people like him solution is simple don’t preorder the game just wait till it’s relese and detailed reviews then buy it.

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Star Wars is Disney nowadays and the screenshots you’re showing me are definitely cartoony in the sense that the visage traits are exagerrated. Realistic would be this direction:

AOE was never 100 realistic nor was it completely cartoony. It was always a mix between the two. The Frankish Axeman^s weapon looks comically big e.g.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ageofempires/images/d/d3/ThrowingAxemanIcon-DE.png/revision/latest?cb=20191231100343

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I know

I don’t think so

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The only thing colorful about Age were the campaign stories but historically its always been a broodiest and for its time realistic. My contention was that the graphics in alpha production (because that’s all we’ve been shown just a graphical show) had more in common with Age of Empires online than its Age of Empires Definitive Edition brothers. Relic with this alpha demo has shown it can do high realistic RTS graphics and is playable on most modest gaming rigs.

In CoH it feels to me more strategig than micro dependant if you win a fight. No such thing as onager attack- split. You either have the right choice of weapons or retreat, even if just into a building.

Well you do have something similar called the mortar half truck and you do have infantry mortar units as well. https://youtu.be/qg9d629s25E

I am not sure I can agreee with you. Age for me personally never came across as a must be realistic series. Age 2 also didnt seem to want to display realistic medieval times. For me it looked colorful and happy. As does Age 4.
I also liked AoEO though - I dont really care about graphics(or rather art style, to be precise here) if gameplay is fine.
Sure, they can do highly realistic graphics, but thats not what they wanted from Age 4. Someone up there wanted painting like gameplay, and you will have to deal with it - or not.

Also it may have been an approach to further change CoH from Age so they are not fighting for sales with each other.

Yes, but afaik in CoH the mortars are more of an AoE attack more used for area (or capture point) denial than anti-Group attacks - which then again, is macro (point control)

Bascally the way CoH works implies macro because you need to control the points, which you need to plan how to defend/attack. At least imo.

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They (in a fool way) think, since didnt played or worked the previous versions of aoe… that a feature of aoe is the simplicy of things … yes those obvious things that were ignored or not worked because of the age (1999) of aoe 2 like unmanned siege, magical arrows coming from ships or buildings, etc

but again that is just fool and mediocre to think that… people just wanted the gameplay, historic battles and campaigns with todays graphics, and since it was been made by relic we all expected those epic coh details on aoe 4 … is not that logic? but in a mediocre way they just left everything so similar to age 2 ignoring that we are in next generation era… thats so annoying and it really makes me mad, this lost opportunity to do an epic game!! now this will be just a regular game that will get forgotten in 1 year maximum due to silly decitions without any basis… and they cant say they did not have feedback, in many (would say dozens) posts like this even 2 years ago people did the callout and they just ignored the community…

I think u were onto something here… op” but until now we werent sure how it was gonna play out… with all the complaints of slow moving fixs, missing content, and lackluster responses from worlds edge and relic- it seems the transfer of power didnt go to smoothly

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I don’t know man. Gaming these days have become a big investment risk. Never know if the product or seller will be any good. Which is a shame. smh.

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