Without a proper apology or process to deal with the mistake of nature known as the 3 Kingdoms DLC, I simply don’t trust you enough as a business to ever give you my money again.
Not only will I not be buying, I am an active detractor of your company and products. Encouraging people on forums like backloggd not to support DE age of Empires, and my friends who already own the game to retvrn to voobly and not give you the engagement metrics.
adding to this:
Am I supposed to feel bad if I buy it?
I don’t think you should feel bad.
you need to decide for yourself:
the answers will be different for different people
Yes to all three questions.
Another topic saying the very same thing that every other topic of this kind says at every new dlc announcement.
You know SurfaceTen, if you don’t wanna play the game anymore, just don’t play it ?
What’s the point in filling the database with useless hate messages ?
There is nothing constructive in your topic.
I think good DLC should be rewarded. If both good and bad DLCs are punished together, why devs would improve the quality of future DLCs?
then you should buy it.
my answers are:
not sure what their response to this would be, but I’d say that us telling the developer that they need to do better is a valid way to voice our misgivings.
Why do you feel the need to shut this down?
We bought the game and they have actively made it worse, in addition to not fixing common issues
I kind of agree. on the other hand if we keep buying DLC (even if good), how do they get any incentive to ever fix some of the issues they have been ignoring for years?
And there’s your answer. We’ve seen a lot of ups and downs in DLC quality over the years, but V&V and 3K, while are bad, were more importantly deceptively marketed.
No amount of good DLCs in the future address that concern.
A good DLC is a product I’d like to buy.
A un-ethical company that will lie to it’s decades long fans, is not a company I’d like to support, regardless of the quality of future DLCs they may produce.
And really that’s the most important thing that needs to be addressed. If there are no long term consequences, why would devs not to lie to us again when convenient?
My words were only targeting the Original post, of course.
It’s just sad that such hateful post are needed for voices to be raised.
I have no issue with people sharing opinion, but just starting a topic by “hey dev, I will boycot you cause you did something I disliked”, just no, it’s not the way of doing. Especially with hidden threat wordings.
But again, it’s only the origina post, not the rest of the discussion.
many of us are very unhappy with for example the 3K civs being in the ranked pool. how do you recommend we engage with the “devs”? what way would not be hateful in your opinion?
you say calling for a boycott is “hateful”, but what other means are there?
the devs haven’t responded with even a single word to the valid concerns and criticisms that have been voiced in this forum
You don’t even know if it will be good and you start boycoting without complete details of it just because you guess they will never ever make another good DLC….
Realistically speaking no game or business is going to admit they screwed up. Its good to give critical feedback like many did but the only thing you can realistically ask for is more transparency and communication.
Unless the screw up is truly pretty significant like with total war Warhammer III
the issue is that many of the current problems aren’t something DLC can fix. DLC is not going to fix crashes, DLC is not going to fix broken lobbies, DLC is not going to fix smurfing, etc.
if they start communicating honestly, fix some of the major outstanding issues, and provide a way to play the game without gimmicky bullshit, I wouldn’t care about the apology.
However an apology would be a good step to show that they value communication. Even just a “there have been problems communicating the content of DLC in the past. We aim to improve this by doing:” and then some actionable steps would be close enough to an apology for me.
V&V still sits at 32% positive reviews on steam. I’d be so embarrassed if I were in charge of that. (I know warhammer III even managed “overwhelmingly negative”, but that’s a feat in its own right)
DLC isn’t going to fix that they lied to us about V&V and 3K.
They got bad score on the MAIN game (not only DLCs), when AoE2 manages that …
Yet you seem to expect they will say something about it somehow someday when they don’t seem to be affected
fair enough. tbh I’m surprised the steam score hasn’t dropped despite all the issues
Yes, if only there was some action we could adopt to effectuate a future where the devs are effected by the prior unethical behavior, consequently motivating them to say something about those deceitful marketing campaigns.
Oh yeah, maybe we should do that.