Spanish Dogs 2.0: Once again, about how to make Spain be Spain, and not Britain with falconets

[Kingfisher1787]

@WolfishICE

I can’t argue with such low quality standards. If a unit costs 100 resources and is weaker than a pikeman, that’s perfectly acceptable.

@Kingfisher1787

I ran some math between Rods and pikes. Rods cost 135.75 villager seconds and pikes cost 127.62 villager seconds. In exchange for the slightly higher price you get 37.8% more base attack against units, 4x the melee armor, 20% higher speed, 12.5% higher hp. You get a little less than one third the siege attack, and slightly lower damage to Cav (about 3.75% less).

In villager seconds a rod only costs about 6.37% more than a pike (btw, both my VS calculations are slightly off, the VS number for Rods depicts an extra 0.026 resources gathered and the pike is 0.0008 over gathered so they’re actually a bit closer in cost).

@platypus_slayer1

2100 elo high enough? Been top 15 (crazy cool seeing people grow in this game). I know the rest would agree but will take time to roll in the quotes since aint no aoe3 player can be truly pro so will take time..

@platypus_slayer1

Batu a AoM pro and also semi/pro aoe3 player

@platypus_slayer1

Shake saying they very good but melee unit class overall meh. Moonshine saying they OP

Pro players like them too.

@WolfishICE

My experience confirms that using pikemen offers greater advantages than using rodeleros.

@platypus_slayer1

Juan man who taught you that opening?
Ima not even be a dick but damn dude its… rough. No wonder you struggling
-both games you dont make a villager before 20s
-both games you 10/10 but no vill shipment so then you pop lock until age2 (4min) and then send wignacourt. Which is worth 3 vills at that point. Youre better off 12/10 or just make a house and std age with 15 or 16. Villagers gather more and more villagers = better value of wignacourt.
-the 3 church opening works better to send 2 church after making 1x church 1x house to get enough xp to send 3 vills asap before clicking age2. Youll age up 25s slower at most but with 50% more eco.
-your tc idle time is too much. Both games had close to 2 minutes of idling sub 6min. Thats 4 to 5 vills lost essentially.
-you need crates, yes even in teams, 700w 700c are often used.
-why send GT and not bother making more wagons? Each commandary is worth 2tc when making them. Thats how to grow eco quickly
-2tc but idle all the time in age3
You want a better maltese eco? Learn a better opener. If you were more optimal in opening and card youd have 8*1.3 more vills minimum.

Kudos for finally posting your vids, but there are ways to improve your eco. You call malta eco weak but you’re not using the civ optimally. You need to learn a better opening and consistent macro (less idle, better age ups, better use of cards). If you just want to advocate for your elo it’s fine, but know that for us (and those above us) the issues are more subtle. You could raise your elo by 200pts with judt better builds and efficency. But if you don’t play optimally you cant blame the civ calling it weak because of eco or you cant use units effectively because you failed to set up your economy to support them

P.S.- seriously the idling. We all idle a pinch here and there but you need to drill in your head till 99 vills every tc should be making vills unless.under seige or aging

Not posting this to be mean here, but in early 2025 you were pretty bad. With the types of micro and macro you’ll see at the level where you aren’t queuing vills until around the 20 second mark you will get a very distorted view of the game.

@WolfishICE

I just think Spain can be easily countered by spamming musketeers.

Perhaps you are right and the pros have simply never considered this…

Sarcasm aside, for the sake of argument let’s say that literally the only reason anyone ever uses Rods in 1v1 is because they can ship rods and can’t ship musketeers. Going even further, let’s say rods are objectively worse in all situations compared to a musketeer; the reality is that even using these supposedly bad units, Spain is considered to be A tier or higher in 1v1 by high level players:

@Kingfisher1787

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