Steppe Lancer vs Camels

I don’t get why Camels don’t counter Steppe Lancers. Even with Imperial Camels, the Steppe Lancers win thanks to their range and their ability to stack up in tight spaces. Camels should hold up better.

What do you think ?

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The generic camels don’t even counter top-tier cavalries properly because they got power crept. The unit-stacking bug didn’t favor them either, so the result is not surprising.

Outside of insane micro skills camels pretty much harder all Steppe Lancer cavalry. They in a far better state than they used to be. Saracens Camels and Hindustanis better much murder most cavalry. Might struggle vs elephants a little, but that’s about it.

In AoEIV happens the same with the “Camel RIder” of Abbasid.

Investing in a Camel Melee army is so Expensive, and they don´t have bonuses aggainst anything that is not cavalry, so many prefers making Abba Lancers (heavy cavalry) instead of the proper Camel Unique unit.

But hey, in AoE2, where more than one civ has generic Camels, if they have them I guess it must be to fill a niche, and if not it’s because they are currently poorly balanced.

Generic camels weren’t always like that.

Sicilian Knights, Polish Knights, Teuton Paladins, Elephants, some other new cavalries, or even Magyar and Polish Winged Hussars, none of them fear generic camels. They either beat generic camels or trade with them cost-effectively.

I would not go with generic camels against cavalry civs if my civ has a Halberdier. Heck, I would even prefer Tatar’s awful halbs over generic camels because they don’t cost gold while camels cost 60 gold.