Sun Wukong needs to be a Major god in the Chinese DLC

This has to happen at this point. This would be too big of a missed opportunity.

Make him a Titan and Myth Unit as well.

He is not a god!

Also how can he be a titan and myth unit at the same time as a major god?

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I think Yu Huang would be the perfect candidate for a chinese major god.
It’s meant to be the Chinese pantheon, not the Sun Wukong pantheon. I like Chillys proposal to make the characters from Journey to the West into unique heroes greek style.
I think it respects the character the most.

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I don’t know if people forget or if they are just ignorant, but Journey to the west is a novel based on hindu mythology.

Asking for Sun Wukong to be in this game is like asking for superman or batman ffs.
Not a god, not a hero, no nothing. Just a fictional character based on the hindu monkey god in a vernacular chinese novel during the ming dynasty.

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I’m not terribly versed on Chinese mythology, but is there something wrong with Nu Wa, Fu Xi, and Shennong?

ADD: From a limited bit of research I did do, however, I want to add - I hope they change Dabo Gong to Dabo Gong and Tu Di Po. One without the other feels odd, especially since the purpose of Tu Di Po is to restrain Dabo Gong.

you completely misundertood chinese history maybe. sun wukong was from a novel written in Ming dynasty (1368-1644AD). the story was based on Tang dynasty (AD618-907)…he is not a god nor from chinese mythology

I think that Sun Wu Kong might not be the best option of the minor god , but it is not due to the reason that it does not come from Chinese mythology

Actually it is controversal to say that he comes from Hindu mythology, because the creation of the character might be inspired by several historical and mythical characters. (may share similar features with Hanumzn in Hindu mythology though), but if you have read “Journey to the West, you will find that the way of thinking and behaviour of WuKong is completely” Chinese". So it is hard to said that it is not from Chinese mythology. (Just like some Olympians (e. g. Apollo & Artemis from Asia Minor) might have non-greek origin, may you conclude that they are not in Greek Mythology?

Also it is not correct to say that Sun Wu Kong is just a “novel character”, because he is workshipped in some mountain region in Fujian, Guangdong and among Chinese communities in SE Asua. Actually monkey is a diety in some folk religions in the mentioned area. After the popularity of the novel, people change the workship from" monkey" to a particular “Monkey character” to Wu Kong

But I agree that it might not be appropriate to include Sun to be a minor god (actually I don’t agree adding Chinese pantheon in the game because Chinese folk religion is completely different withe counterpart). My reasonis that Sun Wu Kong is not workshipped in many places in China, so he is not a widely workshipped god

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Nu Wa was barely a major god whilst Fu Xi and Shennong were never considered to be major gods.

The JADE EMPEROR and other deities must be major gods in place of Fu Xi and Shennong.

Actually the Chinese case is different with the Greeks, Egyptians and the Norse.

There were patron gods/godness in the Greeks, Egyptians or Norse societies, but there weren’t patron gods/godness in records on ancient Chinese societies (maybe there have had, but the records had been destroyed). In the Zhou dynasty, the early stage of Chinese civilisation, it was already believed in ancestral workshop (for their virtual) rather than worshipping gods/godness. Besides, people respected the “heaven” and the “earth” because the weather and the fertility affects agricultural production.

Therefore, I would think making Nu Wo or Jade Emperor the major godness/ god weird. Although Nu Wo created humanity, but we don’t consider her to be our ancestors. (but there is a saying that the Chinese are descendants of Huangdi (Yellow Emperor) and Yandi炎帝)Besides people would not workship the Jade Emperor because he has nothing to affect our livehood. (It is rather considered him as an emperor in the heaven, just like there was an emperor on the earth in imperial China.

Loki recieves more worship now from MCU fangirls than he ever has from Vikings, Germanic tribes, or even all of them combined.
Loki, while a very important figure in the myths and legends, was barely if at all worshipped. There’s no records of him even existing in Germanic mythology, prior to the 6th century, which isn’t true for Thor or Odin, which did exist much earlier and were worshipped among Germanic tribes, albeit under different names.
Loki isn’t a major god in the Norse pantheon because the Norse worshipped him a lot, but because he’s important to the myths and stories. Something that’s true for both Wukong and the Jade Emperor.

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All valid points, but Loki is still a god, and still part of the pantheon of divinity in Nordic/Germanic mythology with strong blood connections to many of the gods. Wukong is not a god. He is a figure of a story. He is best described as like an Achilles. You wouldn’t have Achilles as a god in the game? If Wukong were to be treated as a god, then the figures from the Romance should to. Wukong should have some representation somewhere, either as a hero, myth unit, god power or whatever, but not as a god.

I’m very excited for the upcoming DLC’s :slight_smile: especially the Chinese rework

I think I said elsewhere that I’d prefer Wukong to be a hero. That’s still true.
While I could have worded it better, I wasn’t arguing in favor of Sun Wukung as a major god, but against the notion that major gods are major gods because they get a lot of worship.
But you’re right, I wasn’t arguing against Wukong as a major god either.

In fact, I’d want the Jade Emperor as a major god, instead of Wukong.

I’ve noticed that each of the four pantheons we already have in the game has one major god that is either evil or is commonly depicted as such in modern adaptations. These would be Hades for the Greeks, Set for the Egyptians, Loki for the Norse, and Kronos for the Atlanteans. Who in Chinese mythology would be the closest to an evil god that they could use as a major god in AOMR?

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Sun Wukong is not really a god, he should be replaced by another minor god.

Also the Monkey King myth unit should be replaced.

He would be great for the chinese titan.

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Hades? He wasn’t even remotely evil in Greek mythology.

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Hence why I said “commonly depicted as such in modern adaptations”.

@Mer-MantheTunaFish
Are you really dumb ?

sounds like mindless pandering, not based on actual mythology but current gaming events