First they gave us a scam DLC announcement, then they cancelled the DLC and all future patches to the game
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Man. These are not III forums. But maybe you are doing this as getting into knowledge for the II community
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Quiet unfortunate but as the above poster said this should be in the aoe3 side of the forum.
Wow. That’s sad news.
At first I wondered why you posted in the AoE2 forum, but I appreciate you did because I’d want to know this big news as it relates to the AoE franchise, and I never would have seen it otherwise since I don’t go to the AoE3 threads
That’s the type of thing I worry about for AoE2, and is why I try to be thankful for what they’ve done despite occasional constructive criticism here and there. Hopefully they will continue to do stuff for AoE2, including try new things here and there. Prior to DE, there were probably 20 years of nothing official for AoE2 from Microsoft. I’d hate for the game to go another 20 years of nothing but community stuff
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@FloosWorld can you move this topic to Aoe3 forum?
Nono, leave it here. It’s important for players of other games to be informed.
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I agree with Apocalypso, SMUM15236. Like I said, I would not have heard about this otherwise. It impacts many Age fans, including those who play AoE2. Many AoE2 players played and still own AoE3, so the news is relevant to us in a peripheral way, but we’re not going to seek it out in AoE3 forums.
It gives me less reason to buy AoE3:DE, knowing updates, events, and improvements for it are pretty much done. Being locked in time from a dev perspective at its current state isn’t ideal. Considering I was half-tempted to buy it at some point… okay, more like an eighth-tempted due to positive thoughts on it from others and its improved zoom level… I think it’s good that I find this out now as opposed to later on, so I can make a more informed decision, and not regret purchasing something that won’t be seeing much in the future (similar, but not the same, as AoE1:DE)
If the preference is to cover up the news so it reaches fewer people, then sure, move the thread.
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Why are you guys surprised?
Aoe2 is also abandoned by the main team, we haven’t had patches, balance fixes, pathing improvements despite being broken for 2 years now, even the big tournaments are less and run by half the money they used to be.
I am fine with MS leaving the game, but please before leaving it, allow third party users to allocate the game into private servers or at very least add ranked lobbies for team game users.
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What does the death of AoE3 mean for AoE2 and the other games?
- They are cutting back in the whole franchise → less AoE2 content
- They are moving more manpower onto the other games → more AoE2 content
- They are only cutting back on AoE3 → the same amount of AoE2 content
- They are moving the manpower onto a new game → less or the same amount of AoE2 content
We don’t know yet because they don’t communicate anything. I haven’t heard about layoffs at Worlds Edge or Forgotten Empires.
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I think in this case, it can stay in AoE 2 to make players aware that this, even if seemingly unrelated is a franchise-wide issue.
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I do think that this is valuable insight for also DLC request threads, since previously many were worried that if certain DLCs get made over other wishes, the other ones might not even see the light of the day. This news kind of shows that, perhaps AoE2 stops getting new-civs DLCs sooner than later as well. F.e., if AoE2 was only ever going to get one more DLC, what civs would people want it to have?
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It means they don’t have enough people working, there’s been massive layoffs, and they killed aoe3 because they can’t develop it anymore, Aom will be next. They outsourced the chronicles dlc because of it and if it’s good, it’s not because they did it, it’s because a group of passionate modders made it. If you watch closely youll see they’re pulling resources from all the age franchise
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Yeah they will release one traditional aoe2 dlc per year (in the best of cases) and 2 or 3 chronicles DLCs per year, because they didn’t make them, the modders already have everything done for them
What layoffs?
I know Microsoft/Xbox had massive layoffs but I have never seen anything about layoffs at WorldsEdge or Forgotten Empires.
Man, enjoying all the titles of the franchise here (except some questionable one like mobile), it’s a shame seeing AOE3DE being abandoned so hard.
A DLC that is just outright cancelled without any assets. No patches to address balance in the room.
Just because it’s AOE3DE doesn’t mean it won’t happen to AOE2DE. It’s still a possibility that we could be left with the same case.
In any way, I really feel sad and worse than that about the announcement.
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Yes pathing is even worse on II than III. That’s for sure
We all know than pathing in III has always been pretty bad though, and that speaks so much!
It’s less likely for AOE2 as it’s been carrying the entire franchise for at least a decade. Even if experimental DLCs have been underwhelming (notably RoR and VaV), they can still do the safe bet of a classic DLC for it.
Still very strange that AOE3 will end up without Poland-Lithuania, while a civ no one asked for (Malta) exists.
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Yes, this not only affects AoE 3 DE but the entire saga … they are killing the games one by one … remember that they already let 1 DE die in 2021, now 3 DE, the next one will be Retold if the Chinese DLC doesn’t sell as World Edge wants, then 4 will follow and when only 2 DE remains and they no longer want to release more DLCs, they will simply say “oh, no one plays new RTS” and they will abandon it with the rest of the saga, like in the pre-DE era …
Yes, I had planned to return to 3DE with the release of the Baltic DLC and also do remakes of the Pahacuti, Moctezuma and Almeida campaigns for 3DE… but now I’ll return with less enthusiasm for the 20th anniversary. In the meantime, I’ll stay with Chronicles and the Retold New Year event (I’m also playing the custom Zheng He and Genghis Khan campaigns for the Chinese New Year)…
Yes, the layoffs at Relic… according to what I read a few days ago, the Tilanus group from FE in charge of 3 DE and Retold, had to learn to develop in Relic’s Essence engine to make the AoE 4 DLCs… The Sultans Ascends has Forgotten Empires written all over it and the civs from the Anniversary update are a copy and paste of those from 3: Ottomans are the same (cards, buildings that automatically produce units and being focused on gunpowder) and the Malians are the Ethiopians from 3 with their automatic mines…
That’s true, but it made some sense thematically… I mean, the DLC was called Knights of the Mediterranean and Italy and Malta are Mediterranean countries… plus Malta was a nod to the Blood campaign (in addition to using many assets from there, such as the command post, the gunpowder depot and the fixed gun)… then this Baltic DLC followed, because it included Poland (soldiers with Obuch and winged hussars) and Denmark…
I know about the Relic layoffs but they have been a while ago.
Nothing about layoffs at other AoE related studios.