The decline of AOE 2 DE

I find this reasoning really funny. We already have something in the game that nobody wanted or asked for, therefore we should add other things that nobody wants or asked for!

I teach maths – maybe I should apply this reasoning to marking exams. Once a student makes an error, any subsequent error is actually correct. It would certainly lead to better grades!

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I doubt you can compare maths and art.

Do we really have any say in what goes into the game and not?All we do is speculate and throw ideas and tantrums here.

Math is just art, but not fun and a hundred times more confusing. So, really not like art at all. Both are based on objective principles though – good art can be quantifiably measured.

Well does it change from person to person? Eg 1+1=2 or do people get multiple answers?

How do you say what is good or bad in art?some people like abstract line art some find it just scribbling same goes for music and other types of art.

Clearly I need to go to bed. I’m not making any sense.

Maths is about making analogies between similar arguments in different contexts, and that’s what I was doing. (Although I was mostly just being facetious.) This forum probably isn’t the place for a discussion about what maths is, what art is, or the relationship between the two, so I’ll restrain myself from going into any more detail.

It can be objectively evaluated against subjective criteria – but then, so can anything.

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Auras don’t fit the game mechanically (at least the game as it used to be a decade ago) but they are a believable approximation of a commander boosting the soldiers’ morale.

Vampires would not fit the game thematically. The only magic in the game is monks healing units from distance, which is funny but has been an element of the game since its release. Adding fantasy creatures outside the scenario editor would blur the line between AoE and AoM.

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At most, I could imagine them as Scenario Editor and cheat units (that don’t appear in the official campaigns). People believed in their existence in medieval Europe, so they could be useful if someone made a custom scenario set in medieval Europe involving supernatural elements (if the unit was primarily based on medieval folklore rather than modern pop culture).

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They could include vampires, but only as Halloween visual mods…

Why? The reason AOE-4 was made the way it is was to attract AOE-2 players, and it didn’t work. I don’t see any reason to repeat the formula if they’re going to keep playing Age of Empires 2 for the rest of their lives anyway.

The only advantages of AOE-4 over AOE-3 are the limited field of view imposed by the environment and the ability to place units on top of walls. Generally, AOE-3 is superior in mechanics and art.

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There are also units that can fire while moving, such as ranged cavalry. Aside from that, the innovation was quite mediocre.

This Reasoning is more depressing than funny when you realise it’s essentially a less extreme justification that the Devs used for the 3K Civs.

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Yes, I know, that’s why I prefer they take what they have from AoE 4 and make AoE 5 more realistic and similar to AoE 3 DE…

exactly. thats why the game is declining
Have lost its identity and soul

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A lot of the aura and healing effects are corny and out of place. Variety is good for the game so units like the Fire lancer and Champi are welcomed additions. I think just limiting the craziness of some of the buffs and abilities would go a long way. Also, could we move 3K to Chronicles? Would reduce the size of the civ pop. Not sure what other civs they could add at this point. People have been clamoring for African civs but that’s all I feel could be added effectively?

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非常赞同你的意见现在游戏里恶性故障很多,包括突然卡顿死机并报错,亚美尼亚不能用于随机地图(直接报错),个别windows11专业版打不开游戏,自制模组不能使用并报错(模组本身没差错)

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imo i would get rid of auto farming too, it allows peoople to spam farms mindlessly

What’s so wrong with that?

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I’d agree with this if like…

The original version of this game and HD weren’t already more easily obtainable. Especially HD which can still be found on steam.

And if you’re gonna complain about the lack of QoL improvements in those versions then you people never cared about the soul of this game in the first place.

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The 3K campaigns are just a weird and out of place disaster that it’s existence has to be studied.

Genuinely why would anyone think it’s a good idea, unless they are someone who never played AoE2-

Oh this makes sense now.

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