Sure, but the Martini Henry entered service in 1871 (that is, within the period of the game) and continued to be used until the end of WW1…
Yes, I have the game installed and it is beautiful how it looks and sounds (I played it the game on PS4 when it came out and since last Christmas on Steam)…
But it is a North American civ and was prevalent for Ensemble Studios (a Texas studio)…
Of course, that is, according to the original game the chronology went from 1492/1565 (the Discovery of America/the Great Siege of Malta) to 1817 (the Latin American Wars of Independence)… then with The Warchiefs the chronology was extended to 1876 (the battle of Little Bighorn/Grease Grass) and with The Asian Dynasties the chronology was extended again to 1421 (the travels of Zheng He and the hypothesis of Chinese in America) and since then that has been the chronology of the game that FE can fill with playable content or references to European, colonial wars and the Scramble of Africa…
Yes, the rifle that became popular in the 1860s and changed military doctrines.
On the other hand, we have the musket, whose reload speed remained constant since the 16th century. By the way, you’re aware that the basic unit in AoE 3 is the “musketeer,” right?
Maybe AoE 3 won’t come close to that, or at least in a very limited sense… if AoE 5 is in the 20th century, then they should make faster-firing units and even with machine guns…
the funny thing is that Neftenyas, out of all units in the game, use those reload animations. Because the devs found it appropiate to have a 1890s unit in the game using a freaking bolt action rifle lmao.
i mean we have a da vinci tank, powered by some dude making shhhhh chhhhh sounds
historical limits were never that hard in this game but yeah generally its assumed the game ends 1880s to 1900 at the latest
and begins after aoe2 ending but both games over lap eachother
but we shouldnt take things so serious when again, tank
Yes, it’s even curious that “Neftenya” means “musketeer.” Ethiopia in AoE 3 is a direct reference to the Ethiopian Empire under the rule of Tewodros II (1855-1868), who was known for reforming and modernizing his nation (including its military). Of course, Ethiopia in AoE 3 is set in the Ethiopian Empire (1270–1974), which, as is known, WAS THE ONLY AFRICAN NATION THAT WAS NOT COLONIZED, in part due to its constant adoption of modern weaponry.
Now, returning to the Neftenya, while it’s not anachronistic, I would have liked it to be available from Age 4, like the Bersagliere. I would have also liked the Prussian Needle Gunner to have a reload animation, although perhaps this unit can be explored more in the future. What I do like is that both the Prussian Needle Gunner and the Neftenya are Skirmishers that are related to real history.
Originally, AoE 3 was going to conclude at the end of the Napoleonic era, but then in TWC, the devs extended the date to 1876 (mainly to add the Sioux, and yes, I consider it changed the game quite a bit). The most coherent ending date for AoE 3, in my opinion, is 1870 (the beginning of the second industrial revolution and the adoption of breech-loading rifles as the standard weapon of modern armies). This would allow for better historical immersion in AoE 3. As for the tank, I consider it more of an “Easter egg” that falls within AoE 3’s timeframe (it was designed in the late 15th century… It even appears in Assassin’s Creed II, for heaven’s sake ).
Of course… that is, the timeline is malleable, remember that we have the German War Wagons (aka Hussite Wagons) (referring to the Hussite Wars that by the time AoE 3 DE starts in 1421 -Battle of Hutna Hora in Jan Zizka campaign in 2 DE-, they are still being fought) …And about Da Vinci tank it obviously refers to his tank prototype and to the same tank in AC2, which takes place in the Renaissance…
And Liberia too, but it counts as an American colony xd…
Technically they just about squeeze into the 16th century due to the Battle of Wenzenbach (1504). Sorry, I’m that person.
But, yeah, they’re a bit of an odd addition (again, originally the American Devs say “oooooh, novelty units!”) - something that makes more sense if we have the Poles or Cossack additions.
True, but they began to be used since the Battle of Nekmir in 1419 and from there they continued to be used for centuries, even in Waterloo and the Great Trek in South Africa…
In the 15th century, during the Hussite Wars, the Hussites developed tactics of using the tabors, called vozová hradba in Czech or Wagenburg by the Germans, as mobile fortifications. It was first used in Battle of Nekmíř. When the Hussite army faced a numerically superior opponent, the Bohemians usually formed a square of the armed wagons, joined them with iron chains, and defended the resulting fortification against charges of the enemy. Such a camp was easy to establish and practically invulnerable to enemy cavalry. The etymology of the word tabor may come from the Hussite fortress and modern day Czech town of Tábor, which itself is a name derived from biblical Jezreel mountain Tabor (in Hebrew תבור).
I dig deep into this in my 3-part series on the AOE3 timeframe. If anyone is curious, give it a watch. (I’ve included my summary video, the ones that analyze the evidence closely are available on the channel).
But the short answer is that the AOE3 timeframe is 1419 to 1901.
This unit actually factors in my assessment. Askaris (a merc available in TAR DLC), locally recruited African soldiers, entered service with the Imperial German forces in 1881. I dig into the uniform pretty heavily, and it matches the same time frame as Askaris. So it’s not anachronistic.
I always think it should have been the mid-late 16th century - the start of the early modern age. I discount the Chinese campaign in my head as it a little fantastical with the facts.
On October 25, 2022, Age of Mythology: Retold was announced. Since then, there has been absolute, total silence about this game - and less and less is happening for AoE 3 DE. The exact anniversary of this event will be in two days.
I hope that they will finally announce a pre-order of AoM:R, which will mean distracting a significant part of the creators from working solely on AoM:R. I also LOUDLY hope that in such a situation there would also be a DLC release for AoE 3 DE.
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