The literal “tiger” cavalry

With all the Chinese historians and self-proclaimed Chinese historians defending why the DLC makes perfect sense and how it accurately captures the diversity of Chinese history, nobody noticed THIS?

The Tiger cavalry wears a tiger pelt on his head? Are you serious? Could anyone please provide me a source?

You got it right in AOM:

I tend to guess this is the model of yet another scrapped concept forced into a different unit name. But unlike the others I cannot even imagine what the original concept was. I don’t think the nomads in ancient China did this either.

Anyone has a clue?

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My money is on a mix-up between the Wei and Northern Wei. As as far as I am aware, Xianbei used units closer to the former.

It also adds up why the castle and wonder are Xianbei as well. Just re-name this civ devs…

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It certainly has a more nomadic vibe like the rest of the “Wei” civ. Though nomads wearing animal pelts on their heads is still highly stereotypical…

Edit: to summarize, out of the 6 UUs of the three kingdoms, 4 do not make sense. For the other two, the white feather guard fits Shu quite well, but it could also be attributed to non-Han peoples, and the Jian swordsman is terribly generic.

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On a completely un-related note, not sure even why i’m brining it up and wasting everyone’s time…

right between the patch announcement and the dlc announcement sandy peterson for absolutely no reason re-told his “koreans getting added at the last minute and them getting things wrong” story.

I’m sorry, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

The AoM unit looks like 100x cooler.

Well pretty much any Immortal Pillars unit looks really cool in my opinion.

And pretty accurate, btw

When a mythology game is more accurate than a historical one…

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It’s like the devs did their research on something but then WE pressured them to repurpose it to something else…

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Yes terrible unit terrible name. Jian = sword. It even translates to the exact same thing as MAA in Chinese (剑士).

To be honest, ever since Dynasties of India, the historical aspect of the game has become lazier and lazier.

First they fell for a wikipedia hoax and made the Thirisadai. Then the Armenians are a naval superpower and their unique warrior priest is actually a Georgian priest. Chronicles is alright because they hired historians. And now all the civs in this DLC, save for the Jurchens, are kinda weird. I’d like to know what’s going on behind the scenes, or what’s the reason behind these decisions.

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it was not actual pelt .. it was just garments made to look like tiger skin

Where does this image come from? I suspect it’s highly fantastical. I don’t find any sources that late Han cavalry looked like this.

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I mean aoe2 armenians seem more based on the cilician armenians. I wouldn’t call that a-historical…but it’s definitely an odd choice.

Nitpicking: grenadiers as a Jurchen UU is also weird.

But it could pass because you can consider Jurchen that also includes Late Jin/Qing as a “gunpowder civ” and the hand grenade was a standard East Asian early gunpowder weapon. So it’s organ gun-level of inaccuracy, not as terrible as the rest.

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As far as I know it was a Tang cavalry.. not exactly this cavalry.. Tang dynasty soldiers sometimes wear fake tiger skin


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Just because you have a coast doesn’t make you a naval superpower. And Cilician Armenia wasn’t one of those, so there’s no merit to those bonuses. They could have made them a defensive, cav archer civ to differentiate from the defensive heavy cav of the Georgians, but idk

The Jin dynasty did use explosive weapons and some early thrown greneades, so it’s not innaccurate. Maybe the devs designed them first and ran into problems with the other civs? Who nose…

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Most East Asian nations did. So like I said it’s like the organ gun: many people used it, the civ also (very likely) used it, so it’s not incorrectly assigned, but not very representative or unique enough.

Well those definitely feel more “imitated” than the unit model…

They didn’t invent that weapon, but neither did the English invent the longbow and yet it’s “unique” to them. I suppose that among the new civs, it made more sense to give this weapon to the Jurchens than the Khitanguts, or the pre-gunpowder civs.

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ya because it would look boring if they were portrayed 100% accurate

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