TheViper did the best and most accurate tier list ever imo

I literally agreed with him in every single choice, very good masterpiece and so accurate! His list is really a great reference that can be taken to balance the ladder and adjust the civs which should be buffed/nerfed. Very good selection, literally every piece where it should be and where it belongs.

Enjoy!

Dravidians are garbage
Vikings are A tier

Otherwise good

Oh yeah lets keep balancing all aoe2 civs using arabia as reference because clearly that is the only map played and lets not pretend they force us to play other maps.

Using arabia has been a mistake, look at overpowered turks on closed maps and lets not even talk about mixed maps where some civs can’t be countered.

Balance design should be according to : 1.- Most played game mode, 2.- Players pick rate, 3.- Players win rate on different maps and 4.-Each civ should counter itself.

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And I totally agree with you, but let’s ask ourselves a question; is what you said is possible? I mean you can’t balance the game about all maps, it is just impossible, because there are many maps that barely played and picked. It does make sense to make the balance around the most played maps (also Arena included).

I do agree that Turks, Bohemians, Poles, Cumans and even Bengalis, Portuguese, Aztecs & Spanish all these civs do very well in closed maps. In hybrid we have Lithuanians (which they need nerfs anyway), and you can say same for the previous ones if they got a safe eco, water we have Vikings, Portuguese, Koreans (imo both of Vikings & Portuguese need nerfs here) and we see also Dravidians, Spanish and Saracens. Nomad same previous almost. What I wanted to tell you, other civs are very known in some types of maps and they are just a few comparing to what Arabia can hold. Always Arabia will remian the best to balance around, since all civs are playable on it, and it is the most played map.