Yep, I know that TAD’s wonders more or less work like the ones from RoN with the exception that in TAD and AoE 4 they’re used to Age up.
If you look closely, the guy who posted that hasn’t written about it again. Only one person afterward replied, and then we could have all forgotten about this post… but then Frank came along and what I said happened. That’s what I meant.
Interestingly, as I write this, Frank has just revived another old thread from 24 days ago, about Warhammer, to start flaming again.
aoe 4 gunpowder untis are meh comparing how they work in aoe 3 that an example how i said they are diluted form from their souces and the fact that they couldnt made springard a scorpio like siege for anti inf and soft archer mislead about its representation on medieval warfare. overtunned civs like byzantine which it was underpowered and more apm required to be equal to other civs which is a mislead in the balance direction. every civ has to require the same or similar apm with the difference of floor skill and strategy and the malian civ which in several comment there someone that says that is still underpower aoe 4 has attention bcuz is the only rts but when it comes a good modern one that one will be gone for good.

While it is a fact AoE4 is inferior to AoE2.
While it is a fact AoE4 is the best base build
RTS we had since the year 2007 Tiberium Wars.
Well RA3, SC2, CoH2, Grey Goo and Halo Wars 2 are also redeemable…

I’m still fascinated that people discuss AoE 2 v 4 in this topic whereas OP’s point was that AoE 4 is inferior to AoE 3, so AoE 4’s actual predecessor.

Either way: OP’s point was that AoE 4 is inferior to AoE 3 and I think you should rather adress this.
Yes, it literally feels like they skip AoE 3 on purpose (or out of ignorance because they didn’t play it much or didn’t like it that much, maybe it exists) to make an AoE 4 vs AoE 2 fight… we’re supposed to be comparing AoE 4 with AoE 3, not so much with AoE 2 since they’re not that comparable outside of sharing the same historical period… and technically AoE 4’s predecessor would be AoE Online chronologically speaking, AoE 3 is its direct prequel numerically speaking…

Funny how people are saying Aoe4 is inferior but cant provide any argument as there is no any to make
Not inferior, but there’s always room for improvement…

cant tell if its rly superior (which i highly doubt ) cuz i didnt play it as i was just not interested in the time period probably like many other people . I played only aoe2 aoe4 and Aom

idk aoe3 has worse time period and i didnt play it so cant rly compare those
but i highly doubt its better than aoe4
i played aom aoe2 and aoe4 and out of those aoe4 seems to be best so its probably better than aoe3 too
Yes, it’s not a problem… I feel that AoE 3 is graphically much sharper and more alive than AoE 4 (take AoM as an example, since both use the same graphic engine and give it a much greener and leafier coat of paint) (although it’s true that the classic AoE 3 units looked like stick figures from the PS1 lol, at least in 3DE they look more like PS3 units or at least more modern RTS from the 2010s)… you can try the free version of 3DE to see what I mean…

i mean if aoe3 was so good it wouldnt have died .
It’s a very good game, but it’s an awkward game to promote (although it was never promoted too much in the first place)… the colonial period, while interesting for the exploration of exotic lands and the whole piracy issue, is complex because it touches on subterfuge issues like plantation slavery and the whole issue of European imperialism vs. non-European anti-imperialism that can upset sensibilities in the modern world… the issue of cards and decks is a whole other issue that has been discussed ad nauseam in forums for years since 2005…

I wouldn’t call the period worse, it’s just not as popular as say the Middle Ages. Gunpowder Era still has room for amazing gameplay.

The reason why AoE 3 was rather left in the dust is because Retold is now the newer game, MS have promised two preorderable DLCs (China + Unknown pantheon) which they must deliver as per Valve’s guidelines and as Retold uses the same engine as AoE 3, all devs working on 3 have been shifted over there. Simple as.
Sure, no more, no less… AoE 3, let’s say, reached its climax in 2022 with KotM and the devs simply started to abandon it with the development of Retold and they simply couldn’t maintain so many games and they simply pulled the trigger on AoE 3 and now they’re full Retold because they need to get it up and running quickly and maybe by 2030 they’ll consider coming back for the 25th anniversary of AoE 3, when Retold already has a stable community and a few DLCs on top…

old copncepts when you played aom, aoe 3 and aoeo. they may add smth from them thou but very diluted if you compare from their sources
Sure, sure…

Actually, the idea for Landmarks didn’t originate from AoE 3, but from another game from the creators of the Asian Dinasties: "Rise of Nations"

Yes, they hired “another studio” to make the AoE3 Asian Dinasties DLC, “Big Huge Games”
They were mainly based on the idea of Wonders of Rise of Nations.

Landmarks were a Rise of Nations idea.

Yep, I know that TAD’s wonders more or less work like the ones from RoN with the exception that in TAD and AoE 4 they’re used to Age up.
Sure, sure…and the treasures are an idea from the WC3 keeps…

Let’s see, the fact is that AoE2 surpasses AoE4 in popularity, content, mods, accessibility, some mechanics that may draw more attention from a micromanagement point of view or tactics such as increased damage on hills. All this at the moment. Perhaps it will change over time.
Art style is more subjective, but they seem to like the art style of 2 better and also how detailed and rich 3 is (as long as it doesn’t affect readability). The music also seems to please more in AoE2 (AoE4 has an better immersive sound in the Gameplay).
AoE4, although it is much better than at launch, can give quite a bit more than it is giving.
It’s not the micromanagement. It’s the more in depth economy management, that feels like a game of its own. AoE4 gives you lots to do, but it still feels like a means to an end in comparison. Art style is also cozier in AoE2. All this makes it much better for casual play. For MP I still prefer AoE4 by a wide margin.
Yeah, I think the same…in multiplayer, AoM and the games that came after it are more fun than AoE 2…