Thread to Compile Pantheons with at Least 12 or 16 Gods

Age of Mythology: Retold Discussion
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Greetings, everyone,

I’ve been dusting off AoM and reviewing some topics in this sub-forum. One of the most discussed topics is the possibility of adding new pantheons. While it’s likely that the Chinese pantheon will be added in a DLC (as it happened in AoM EE), I’ve been researching various mythological pantheons from different cultures.

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As you can see, the number of pantheons is vast and varied. I don’t want to sound cynical, but I don’t want to get my hopes up about some of these pantheons. Therefore, I believe a requirement for future pantheons should be that they consist of at least 12 gods (3 major and 9 minor), ideally at least 16.

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I admit that I don’t know much about most of the pantheons from various cultures around the world, and it’s possible that some already consist of more than 12 gods. I’ve seen that many users have posted some pantheons, so I’d like to ask if there are users with specific knowledge about the number of gods that make up a particular pantheon.

It would also be helpful to know if there are any “mythical creatures” that could be incorporated into these hypothetical new factions.

Lastly, I want to take this opportunity to speculate about the future of the existing factions that currently have only 12 gods (Greeks, Egyptians, and Atlanteans).

  • Greeks: This civilization seems most likely to have at least 4 more gods added. If I had to choose another major god, I’d go with Zeus’ siblings who were vomited by Cronos, such as Hestia or Demeter (I personally lean toward Demeter, who could be economically oriented, similar to Isis for the Egyptians). As for minor gods, there are plenty to choose from: Persephone, Hebe, Asclepius, Eros, Pan, and even Hercules (though he already appears as a hero). Many of their mythical creatures are already represented and many have been provided to the Atlanteans, but there are still plenty more that could be added (like the Amphisbaena, Ceto, Arachne, Argus, Basilisk, etc.). I wouldn’t be surprised if 2 more major gods were added for the Greeks (Hestia and Demeter).

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  • Egyptians: AoM already has 12 of the 14 principal gods of Egyptian mythology. However, Egypt has many gods that could be added, such as A’a, Aker, Amenhotep, Am-Heh, Ammut, and more (and that’s just listing them alphabetically). As for their mythical creatures, in my opinion, there are still many that could be added (like Ammit). However, I think they lack in terms of marine mythical creatures, which is evident with the inclusion of a giant turtle and the leviathan, which is actually an element of Abrahamic beliefs.
    If I had to choose a new major god for the Egyptians, it would be Amun.

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Atlanteans: They have the advantage of their faction having a symbiosis with Greek mythology. Just like the “12 Olympians,” there are also the “12 Titans” (in addition to Oceanus and Gaia).

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If I had to choose a new major Titan, it would be Coeus (Titan of intelligence, what makes us human). Regarding their mythical creatures, there is still much to choose from Greek mythology. As a personal note, I’m surprised they have chosen the Behemoth (from Abrahamic beliefs) as a mythical unit for the Atlanteans, but I suppose it’s part of the artistic liberties and the Atlanteans’ own interpretation in AoM.

I hope to read many proposals from users who have already expressed interest in new pantheons (like these 1, 2)

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Now, I’m going to place the Inca pantheon as well as give an example of the format.

Inca Pantheon and Mythical Creatures Example

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The Incas have several gods, and I’ve listed the ones I consider important. It’s important to specify that in the Inca worldview, there were 3 worlds: Hanan Pacha (the upper or celestial world), Kay Pacha (the earth, where humanity resides), and Uku Pacha (the underworld).

If I had to choose 3 major gods, my criteria would be 1 representative from each world: WIRACOCHA (Hanan Pacha), PACHA MAMA (Kay Pacha), and SUPAY (Uku Pacha).

As for mythical creatures, there are many that can be used, especially if you include mythical beings from conquered realms (coast, highlands, and jungle) as well as Andean mythical creatures recorded in colonial/viceregal times.

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For those interested in the Andean world, here are some videos.

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Thank you for linking to my post!

I’m thinking of creating concepts for Pantheons for civs that I’d like to see in this game like Celts, Romans and Christians civs.

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They already announced the Chinese as the first DLC. There will be another mystery pantheon added after that.

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I look forward to seeing your ideas :smile:
A question, by “Christians” do you mean to refer to the Roman civilization? :thinking:

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Thank you!

That would be a wasted opportunity. Of course not.

It would be a combination of fairy tales and legends. Romantic knights, crusaders, griffins and majestic castles. Simply exaggerated and idealized Middle Ages - Hollywood and children’s fairy tales. A combination of Shrek, Heroes 3 and Stronghold.

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For those that want Christians, I reccomend Godsworn. It’s in early acces on steam, and about to get a larger content drop, with a new subfaction of the Christians well on their way. It is set in a fantasy version of the northern crusade against the baltic tribes. (Meaning roughly the 1400s, so you can expect late medieval inspired buildings and armor) You can play as Baltic gods, such as Meness and Saule, as well. Right now, there’s more content for the Baltic tribes around than for the Christian side, but I assume that’s gonna even out a bit. Right now, Archangel Michael is a fully playable faction.

I think the game can be described as “If AoM and WC3 had a baby”. It’s being developed by two people as an Indie project with minimal budget.

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Slavic pantheon is the big one I really want to see some day, but Celts, Mesopotamians, Aztecs, and Persians are also major ones i’d like to see.

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Some people want Hathor, partly to make up for her being replaced with Sobek and partly to add more female major gods

Outside of new major gods for pre-existing religions, I personally want Japanese and Aztec

Persians and Tengriist would be cool as well (not that I know much about those), but I feel they shouldn’t be called Mongolians in AoM (not Tengriist either since one of the gods would be Tengri).

Edit: Another culture I’d like to see is Tupi-Guaranis. They’d need made up wonders like Atlanteans though (I think the Norse ones qualify as made up as well).

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Wait, Yara? I thought that one was Brazilian/Tupi-Guarani.

Edit 3: Also, I’ve said this multiple times (probably to other people), but @MUTYLATOR5553 I really don’t think Christianity or any other monotheistic religion belongs in AoM. Atlanteans also shouldn’t be a standalone civ imo.

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As a Christian myself I don’t think Christianity should be in the game personally. I think it would be nigh impossible to do it in a way that wouldn’t end up being offensive. Same issue for Judaism and Islam as well (and probably Hinduism and other faiths that are widely worshipped elsewhere in the world currently, though probably not to the same degree as these monotheistic faiths) I think traces can be done (the Egyptian Leviathan unit is based on a representation of Satan in the Old Testament for example) but much more than that and things can get messy quick.

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Public opinion is one thing, but there’s also the fact the age up system is made with polytheistic religions in mind. No matter how you stretch facts there’d be only one actual god for such a civ. The titan would be a problem as well.

I think the best compromise would be adding a Canaanite/Phoenician pantheon, if enough is known about their religion.

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I’m pretty sure a decent bit is known about their religion, so that could probably work yeah.

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I’d actually quite like Goths as a standalone civ, but their pre-Christian religion isn’t well understood so I’m fine with them being included in Norse.

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Atlanteans are the reason why Christian civ doesn’t sound so weird. Besides, some people want a Chthulu civ, so you can want different things.

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They and the other Germanic nations had the same pantheon of gods, but under different names e.g. Odin and Wotan. The differences between Germanic nations were obvious but I think “Variants” of civs could work in AoM. Nords are basically the best candidate for this - with the possibility of creating many such Variants civs.

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Me daría mucha gracia ver un panteón cristiano. Me imagino que el dios mayor sea Jehová y los pases de edad sean con santos. El titán es San Pedro con una gran llave dorada a modo de mazo. Poderes divinos, la aparición de la virgende Guadalupe en el cielo, el diluvio, conversión de las unidades en sal y las 7 plagas. Jeje

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I know that it might be a controversial opinion, but for the greek/atlantean I wouldn’t mind having the romans.

I know that a lot of the atlantean civ is based on romans, and that a lot of gods would be the same of the greeks, but there is still potential.

There is also the possibility to have the gods jupiter, neptune and pluto (so zeus, poseidon and hades) as mythical age gods instead of major gods, associated with powerful godpowers and myth units.

At the same time the major gods for the romans should be the ones more original and associated with their italic culture, like saturn (later associated with kronos, but a good one) vesta and Janus.

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I thought about coming up with a concept of Variant and Hybrid civilisations.

There is some interesting potential:

  • Amazons (Variant for Greeks or Scythians)
  • Trojans (Variant of Greeks or Hittites)
  • Atlanteans with Poseidon (Hybrid between Greeks and Atlanteans)
  • Christian Romans (Variant of Pagan Romans)
  • Goths, Alemanni, Saxons, Franks, Vandals, etc. (Variants of the Norse)
  • Babylonians, Assyrians, Sumerians, Elamites etc (Variants of each other)
  • Buddhists (Variant of Chinese, Japanese, Indians etc.)
  • North American Natives (There is a lot of overlap but also differences between them)
  • Etruscans (Variant of the Romans)
  • Nubians (Variant of the Egyptians)
  • Lemurians (Hybrid between Atlanteans and Indians)
  • Mu (Hybrid between Aztecs and Atlanteans with some Indian or Chinese elements)

Just a few ideas.
Those would all (or most) only have one Major god instead of 3-4.

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Perfect!

First you need to have Romans civ. This seems unfascinating to me.

That’s it! I want this!

Similar to Gods Packs, you can start with this one from Nords.

We have to wait for the Mesopotamians civ. But this is another example of a great candidate for additional Variant civs.

Seems to be okay.

Have to remember that the next DLC will most likely bring back Chinese civ.

Great ideas!

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Outside of a few exceptions (Poseidon for Atlanteans, but that one would have to be integrated in the main campaign IMO, so won’t happen) I’m not too fond of hybrids. Variants already exist with different major gods.
Altered textures and slightly altered models for buildings and units unique to a specific major god are an Idea I can get behind.
But a major thing in AoM is that each pantheon looks and plays different from the others. So adding a bunch of “Greeks but X” and “Greeks but with Norse X” civs can blur the line.
Although Freyr being “Norse but more defensive” was done well. It didn’t remove what made Norse unique, nor did it try to make the Norse seem like someone else.
Hope it makes sense…