I was thinking of making a topic about general questions, but since the topic of Ottoman Vizier points is something to talk about a lot, I decided to make a general topic just about that.
Did you know that up to now there is no information on the wikis about how many Vizier points each unit gives?
To answer this and several questions, here is an large list that I am going to answer, with testing and everything else.
01.- How many exact Vizier points do you get for creating units and Landmarks?
02.- Do veteran and elite units give more vizier points than their early versions?
03.- Does developing technologies or other actions give Vizier points?
04.- Does building an Imperial Age Landmark give double the experience if it is in front of Topkapi’s palace?
05.- Are ships affected by the Tocktapi palace?
06.- Does the Blacksmith bonus affect the Dock, Market and Mosque?
07.- Do military school units generate Vizier points?
08.- Do units built in Grand Galley gain Vizier points?
I have even calculated it with screenshots, but in order not to exhaust the server, here are the stats in the 4th season. Note: “The measurements of the units are from the Season 5 PUP, but I retested it and they remain the same”:
- Villager - 2p - (50f)
- Explorer - 1p - (70f)*
- Spearman - 2p - (60f 20w)
- Men-at-arm - 3p - (100f 20g)
- Archer - 2p - (30f 50w)
- Crossbowman - 3p - (80f 40g)
- Janizaro - 4p - (60f 100g)
- Sipahi - 3p - (120f 40w)* (updated 5th season)
- Knight - 6p - (140f 100g)
- Mehter - 4p - (100f 80g)
- Trader - 2p - (60w 60g)
- Magnet - 4p - (150g)
- Ram - 8p (250w)
- Siege Tower - 0p (200w)
- Springald - 12p (300w 250w)
- Mangonel - 15p (400w 200g)
- Counterweight Trebuchet - 19p (400w 150g)
- Great Bombard - 30p (450w 900g)
- Ribaudequin - 25p - (300w 600g)
- Fishing Boat - 2p - (75w)
- Trade Ship - 5p - (100w 100g)
- Transport Ship - 3p - (100w)
- Dhow - 6p - (90f 150w)
- Hulk - 8p - (120f 200w 30g)
- Incendiary Ship - 4p - (80w 80g)
- Carrak - 15p - (200f 200w 200g)
- Grand Galley - 20p - (150g 360w 300g)
- Units from Grand Galley - 0p - (Possibly BUG) *
- Landmark “Twin Minarete Medrese” - 15p (400f 200g)
- Landmark “Sultanhani Trade Network” - 19P (400f 200g + 2 free traders)
- Landmark III - 45p (1200f 600g)
- Landmark IV - 100p (2400f 1200g)*
- Wonder - 600p (6000f 6000w 6000g 6000s)*
As an additional note, the wonder interestingly also gives vizier points. On the other hand, the general conversion is based on the total cost of resources divided by 40 or an approximate. The only exceptions are the Explorer, the Sipahi the 4th Landmark.
Explorer: I suppose that the case of the explorer (1P) is due to the fact that the unit is so easy to produce in Imperial, since it only costs food, so that you don’t overproduce them to obtain points from vizier, they put 1p points on him.
Sipahi: Personally, I think it’s more due to an oversight: the Sipahi, in the 4th season had a lower price (110f 20w) so its conversion gave 3p from vizier, but since the 5th season its price increased (120f 40w), so in theory per conversion it should give 4p of vizier. (Time to claim! jeje).
Siege Tower: Personally, I think it’s due to another oversight: The siege tower NEVER gave Vizier points when it was built. Is it because it’s not a proper unit of the siege machine shop? I have tried with the ram and they give you 8p whether you build it in the workshop, or in the field. (Time to claim! jeje)
Imperial Age Landmark.- should give 90p (3600/40= 90), but I suppose that 100 is more beautiful than 90 aesthetically, and maybe for balance so that you have a greater reward for increasing your age, just assumptions.
No, units continue to give you the same amount of Vizier points throughout the game, whether or not they are upgraded with technologies or upgraded in quality.
No. None, next question.
Oh, and units created by Vizier Cards (Vizier Technologies), as the free mehter or the two free Imans, don’t give you any vizier points.
4.- Does building an Imperial Age Landmark give double the experience if it is in front of Topkapi’s palace?
No, the bonus seems to only affect units, whether they come from military schools or classic military buildings. Normally you earn 100 points on the Imperial Age Landmark, and you still earn 100 within the Imperial Palace area.
Yes, in fact, any building that can be affected by the influence bonus from the Blacksmith/Madrasa works with Tocktapi’s palace. In fact, it would be a good idea for the marine game to build this palace next to the pier, to benefit from the construction of ships.
To the Market, NO
To the Mosque, NO
Al Muelle, YES, and the best thing is that it also influences fishing boats and merchandise ships. So, you can take advantage of this bonus to improve your food and gold economy with ships.
YES, and the gain is the same as building them with your own money. It also features the Mehmed Imperial Armory Landmark.
NO, in fact it could be a BUG. It is assumed that creating any unit should give you Vizier points. It is strange that this ship does not generate Vizier points for creating units. (“Time to complain”! hehe)
Doubts and more questions in the comments, hehe. This is a topic that is worth talking about. My greetings.