Unpopular Opinion - the DLC is looking Great

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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I never thought Three Kingdoms would be included, and i can’t wait to play them on Ranked

I really thought we are only going to get more European Civs as the many other roster goes and this got me actually interested in trying out AOE2 for once, that hook me in

Three Kingdoms has a fairly large fanbase, as well as from playing Dynasty Warriors as a kid, I bet Lu Bu will be an enemy in the campaign, and dont forget while everyone is complaining right now, im certain Three Kingdoms would sell well

Three Kingdoms Total War, was Creative Assembly most sold Total War due to entering the Chinese Market, as well as the Cathay for Warhammer 3, which also sold extremely well and got many Chinese onboard. The New Dynasty Warriors : Origin, also sold very very well.

Sure people seems to dislike the ideas of Heroes and such but they have been in part of AOE games for a long time, and they only seem to have stuff like Aura which is nothing, so its like a leader unit

and for those people asking it to be separated its dumb, cuz you will be defrauding all the people who pre-order and purchased, as the Devs promised these will be on Ranked and Multiplayer, and the Chronicles of AOE2, no one plays that, literally no one, i queue for 8 minutes and cant even find a match, so if the new civs end up there, it will be unplayable for multiplayer as you cant even find any players for it

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I can’t wait to play them and main them on Multiplayer, thank you

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Dynasty Warriors Origins has sold over 1 million units worldwide

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I hope Lu Bu will be playable on Ranked, Liu Bei, Cao Cao and Sun QIan is nice though

also people seems to forget Zhuge Nu came from Three Kingdoms, Zhuge Liang invented that

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Hey World’s Edge, here is your next DLC inspiration:

On the day of release, Black Myth: Wukong reached over 2.2 million concurrent players on Steam, which placed it as the second highest game by this metric, surpassing other popular games such as Elden Ring and Cyberpunk 2077 .[156][157]

Another:

Palworld sold over one million copies in its first eight hours of early access on January 19, 2024,[43] which rose to two million copies within the first 24 hours,[44] three million copies within the first 40 hours,[45] five million copies by day 3,[46] six million by day 4,[47] seven million by day 5,[48] and eight million by day 6.[49]

Another:

Elden Ring sold 13.4 million copies worldwide by the end of March 2022 and 28.6 million by September 2024, making it one of the best-selling video games of all time.

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Funny how all these apologetics joined the forum as recently as from 2 days ago to today lmao.

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Yes i forgot about Wukong, and nothing wrong about joining recently, i made a new account cuz i saw all the negative stuff

They can add WuKong and other stuff to AoM easily, it would fit

sales will do well i guaranteed it, many fans from China will support, you will not, thats okay

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devs added a battle royale mod but we can’t even build stairs. Fix plz.

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You can defend this DLC, but you’re completely missing the point. Is the issue really about European civis? At the very least in this forum, many players have kept complaining about the excessive focus on European civs—it’s practically a universal complaint.

While people have various reasons for complaining, the core issue is whether these three civs from the 3K era even qualify as normal civs in the game. That’s the real source of dissatisfaction.

If you’re going to defend it, at least get your argument straight.

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That’s what bootlickers like you say about every DLC slop.

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i personally do like it as well for multiple reason but too lazy to repeat them all.

I do wonder how well it’ll do, on the forums and online people hate it. But most people here have been speculating and hoping for others, and they also really care about the random time frame they defined aoe2 as. Along with other conventional laws being broken. But the overall fanbase i predict wont be huge history buffs, but will be enough to at least know some familar like the 3k.

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The wording these posts use are very similar as well.

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Same for me when they made Romans, never thought they would add them to the game, and I’m happy to have them now.

I’m also impatient to see those 3 kingdom things, discover the history within Age of Empires 2 rather than another game. And that different way of telling a story, that made me think of Age of Mythology more than Age of Empires 2 with the units abilities ideas. I’m totally fine with them, and mostly curious to see it for real.

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While this DLC has some major flaws, it finally introduces new civs from the Chinese state, which is generally a good thing. However, it is not good of the developers side, to feed people with misinformations, only to then release something different.

But we also have the problem here in the forum, that too many people are too narrow minded in their attachment to the game’s previous concepts. The ever same complainers here in the forum criticize too much at all ends, which is also not helpful.

I assume, that this is just the beginning of more China, that will come to the game in the future. I expect, that the Southern part of China will receive 5 new civs. The Tanguts will probably arrive as next.

Further keep in mind, that China is 30 times bigger than Italy and almost as big as all of Europe, therefore China needs more and more civs..

Also the adding of the Tibetans is a task since the year 2000. Only then it will be a kind of counterweight to the many civs of Europe, that we have up to now in the game.

Giving the Chinese state a high priority is a must, if you want to be historically accurate. This is also therefore, because China is the country, where “Gunpowder” became acceptable in the military.

I am also in favor of expanding the Indian subcontinent again. The developers could draw inspiration from the ingenious “Dharma Expansion” mod. For more informatin you can look here: Dharma Expansion and here [Mod] Dharma Expansion 2.0.

The last DLC “Dynasties of India” did not go far enough in terms of new civs. There is still a tremendous amount missing, both on the Indo Aryan and Dravidian sides. Northern India need a significant expansion. Much work remains to be done to legitimately catch up with Europe in comparison.

Both the Indo Aryans and the Dravidians need to be expanded to include at least 5 and 3 more civs, which makes a total of 8 new civs.

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But they’re adding only 2 civs to East Asia, not 5.

Shu, Wei and Wu aren’t civilizations.

They’re:
Dynasties with the same culture as Han Chinese (Chinese in aoe2).
Lasted less than the average human lifespan.
They don’t fit the game’s time period, it’s way worse than Huns or Romans.

People have always wanted Tibetans, Tanguts etc.

It’s not forum complainers. Victors and Vanquished received a smaller outrage and it is rated 31% on Steam. Three Kingdoms is even more hated and will be the biggest failure of the franchise.

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Unfortunately, they already are. Practically everything about this 3 Kingdoms DLC is criticized. I do not think, that the timeframe of the Late antiquity or simply the Antiquity is necessarily wrong, since much of the game dates back to the Ancient era anyway.

That can and will probably happen. Too much has gone bad. The little that is good, will also then dragged through the mud. The absence of the “Tanguts” is very bad, and the conflation of their castle and their unique unity with the Khitans, who lived thousands of kilometers away, is unforgivable. After the low sales figures, Microsoft will probably ask itself, what needs to be “changed”.

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Customers aren’t that dumb. There is a reason why people complain literally everyone. People feel cheated because they wanted East Asian civilizations in aoe2, not Three Kingdoms cashgrab.

No. Every “hate” comment used to be downvoted to hell on Reddit. Now it is 80% of complaints on Reddit.

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Well, the developers made a mistake by not including the “Tanguts” to this DLC. The “Tibetans” are also missing again. I hope, that the developers add them in the next two DLCs, as completely independent civs.

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Think about it. Reddit once was massively supportive of V&V. They accused every complaint as “haters” and downvote them to hell. They resort to the “silent majority” that will definitely enjoy V&V, and now V&V is still mostly negative.

And even Reddit cannot enforce positivity this time XD

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Who are the ever same complainers? I have literally never complained about any AOE2 DLC and even I can see this is a terrible DLC.

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Read the sentence before you made this, that shows your behaviour like this:

You even insult other users with hidden allusions, even worse than complainers.

The fact, that you are now massively insulting this DLC proves, that you are a complainer in pure form.

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We are real players giving feedback to the games. Not players giving negative feedback= bots.

This is weirdest logic ever found in this forum.