Valor heal unit 100% / Cheiroballista

In some strategy like kronos rush this is so abusive, every unit you next to kill an unit, the opoenent just use valor and get a new unit hero full life, it can save a Cheiroballista (high cost unit and unit has no counter) or/and save citzen from a raid, if you get a lucky raid because good atty players has a house next to citzens.

while this you get your eco to trash and the oponente has a good gathering.

Some suggestiions:

  • No heal unit or do not allow use in certain units like Cheiroballista?
  • No siege hero?
  • Increase cooldown?
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Has no counter? Cheiroballista are countered by basically everything. Even the infantry that they’re supposed to be a counter to will destroy it if they get in range.

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Well this wrong, cheiros do have counters since they have a siege and archer tag. Granted theres only 1 unit in game with bonus vs siege but theres plenty with bonus vs archers.

Thats kinda the point? Which is why you usually target the hero citizen first because it cant be healed.

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Its oppressive in niche cases where that one Cheiroballista that you’re trying to kill disrupts everything you’re trying to do. Which is mostly limited to Kronos rush.

Yeah, the main point is in kronos rush. As a norse it’s like u need to be 300 rating more the oponent to win, Idk how is this with other civs.

My point is check a way to balance this, it’s so disguting even you change the build order u cant counter this and the match still really hard.

you ‘ll lost some units in the path, others fighting and when the cheiro has about to die u use valor and kill other units

Ok, he has ranged tag. But it doenst matter in that timing, Normally you can’t put great hall at timing, and when you can afford the guy just put some katapelts. I played all norse and this play is a nightmare.

Didnt seem you were talking about kronos Rush only since you are talking about raiding villagers and other things. Yea for loki and odin its quite Hard. Thor and freyr can defend its def not an easy task but def doable. That said, from all the things that make it Hard valor on cheiro is not it since you can Rush with automatons and have similar outcomes.

If you are looking for balance ideas theres a discord balance serve for suggestions. Theres a topic ok kronos Rush.