Ways to buff, hill forts, tower shields, and timurid siegecraft

[VotelessHydra15]

i propose that the following unique techs be changed in order to boost their civs play on arena aswell as just have the techs see more use.

timurid siegecraft should have the research time reduced from 50 seconds to 40 seconds, and have the additional affect of making the trebuchet projectile move much faster similar to spanish cannon galeons.

hill forts should give all buildings a passive small heal bonus, something like 5hp a second, this is an unused defensive bonus, that would have some interesting use in the late game, the exact numbers could be tweaked but the current hill forts is one of the least used techs.

tower shields should be changed to +2/+2 for skirms and halbs. lithuanian halbs are currently the worst in the game in head to head fights, losing even to tatar halbs. for a civ to have two bonuses for halbs and still to be that bad is pretty ridiculous. tower shields is already very expensive for what it gives and i think additional melee armor for skirms would be interesting and not opressive.

for multiple years now tatars has had the lowest winrate on arena. i very much want that civ specifically to get some sort of buff focused on that map.

[Apocalypso4826]

@VotelessHydra15

timurid siegecraft should have the research time reduced from 50 seconds to 40 seconds, and have the additional affect of making the trebuchet projectile move much faster similar to spanish cannon galeons.

Agree with the research time reduction. However, I think the projectile speed increase is a bit much, and isn’t logical either.

@VotelessHydra15

hill forts should give all buildings a passive small heal bonus, something like 5hp a second, this is an unused defensive bonus, that would have some interesting use in the late game, the exact numbers could be tweaked but the current hill forts is one of the least used techs.

Hill Forts is one of the most underrated UTs. There are at least two games in the original Titans League that could’ve been won if Hill Forts had been researched. It’s actually very useful when your base is being swarmed.

@VotelessHydra15

tower shields should be changed to +2/+2 for skirms and halbs. lithuanian halbs are currently the worst in the game in head to head fights, losing even to tatar halbs. for a civ to have two bonuses for halbs and still to be that bad is pretty ridiculous. tower shields is already very expensive for what it gives and i think additional melee armor for skirms would be interesting and not opressive.

Maybe. I think Lithuanian trash is already pretty good.

[FearfulSugar350]

@VotelessHydra15

timurid siegecraft should have the research time reduced from 50 seconds to 40 seconds, and have the additional affect of making the trebuchet projectile move much faster similar to spanish cannon galeons.

I think timurid siegecraft should also increase blast radius of flaming camel by 2.

[VotelessHydra15]

if timurid siegecraft is not made stronger then i suggest a cost reduction from 500w 400g to 400w 300g. some more potential tatar buffs would be to give them archatecture or hoardings, two man saw, or their old +2 sheep at the start of feudal bonus.

if hill forts is not made more powerful then i think the cost should be drastically reduced from 250f 250g to 100f 100g

if tower shields is not made stronger then i think the cost should be reduced to from 500f 200g to 300 food 200g

[Malycos654]

@VotelessHydra15

tower shields should be changed to +2/+2 for skirms and halbs. lithuanian halbs are currently the worst in the game in head to head fights, losing even to tatar halbs. for a civ to have two bonuses for halbs and still to be that bad is pretty ridiculous. tower shields is already very expensive for what it gives and i think additional melee armor for skirms would be interesting and not opressive.

@VotelessHydra15

if tower shields is not made stronger then i think the cost should be reduced to from 500f 200g to 300 food 200g

They already have above average skirm and FU hussar with a small bonus vs gunpowder units. Their trash units dont need buff and UT is already quite cheap.

[thieftdp8498]

thats way too massive iirc flaming camel already has a big blast radius so having +2 would make it similar or greater than armenian’s demo-line

[VotelessHydra15]

alright so if tower shields is unchanged. what about the change to hillforts that makes buildings regenerate 5hp per second. i would like for lithuanians to have some sort of buff geared to their lategame

[emarz4697]

@VotelessHydra15

5hp a second

Did you mean 5hp a minute? 11

[EvilPanda494]

@VotelessHydra15

tower shields should be changed to +2/+2 for skirms and halbs. lithuanian halbs are currently the worst in the game in head to head fights, losing even to tatar halbs. for a civ to have two bonuses for halbs and still to be that bad is pretty ridiculous. tower shields is already very expensive for what it gives and i think additional melee armor for skirms would be interesting and not opressive.

Lithuanians already have amazing trash. Not-amazing halbs is still good just because they are halbs, and they have FU skirms with 2 bonuses to deal with other halbs. They also have some of the strongest hussars in the game with winged hussars

They don’t need to have amazing trash in all aspects