We need more splash damage UUs

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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Honestly, it’s hard to believe that we still don’t have a melee infantry UU with a huge sword that functions like a druzhina champion by default. Such units are like a staple of medieval and in general pre-modern warfare.

A ranged UU with splash damage would work a bit weird, but who knows, some long ranged archer that is supposed to be massed like longbows are and be a backline unit excelling at dealing with enemy archer masses could be possible.

Hopefully we will see that soon instead of champion reskin #6 or cavalier reskin #8.

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A better idea could be give archers the attack ground ability, in a area of 3 tiles but with less damage

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That’s something I would love, but would be a huge buff to archer civs micro potential, britons especially.

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Organ guns feel like they are made for dealing with groups of enemies well (which they don’t). How about give their bullets a ltiny little bit of splash. For example the 4 extra bullets that deal 2 damage could receive the aoe of a bombard cannon but not the main bullet.

Single target damage would be same, aoe damage would be slightly increase since the extra bullets now aoe. But it stacks nicely with a few organs so that if you got 20 organs and they all have 4 extra bullets with tiny splash in which they deal 1 damage. Each volley they deal a good amount of splash damage. like 20 scorpions.

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Or just buff their secondary projectiles

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If you just buff secondary targets dmasge you make them op. They already have good single target damage. They need aoe.

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We all need aoe in our lives.

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Is this really true?! I’ll admit I’m no expert, but my understanding is that “huge” swords were made to hang on walls, not for actual combat, and that two-handed swords were generally not used to attack multiple enemies in huge sweeping blows. Maybe I’m misunderstanding…

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Sorry, I didn’t iterate my thoughts correctly.
What I mean is that huge splash swords are a staple of our representation of those times, actually I assume no sword could hit 3 people at the same time. But all the games involving melee combat have those big swords, look at doppels in aoe3 for example.

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Two-Handed Swords were actually staples of late Medieval to Early Modern combat though, they were primarily employed by well-armoured heavy infantrymen like Doppelsoldners as a method to breakup Pike formations. This is probably the reason why the Militia line is designed as a counter to Spears in this game and the weapon choice of 2HS and Champs

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I think elephant archers could possibly do weak trample damage around themselves. Be interesting, and possibly balanceable.

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Jesus christ can we stop with the buff elephant archer posts please.

Try playing Britons against an ele archer stack. Or Vikings. Or Mayans. Or Japanese.

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Vikings and Japanese you could play halbs for both. Elephants aren’t so great against halbs. Mayans could always play monks. I see your point with Brits, but Elephant archers a generally pretty underused, and if the trample damage was kept low, or if they could fire while moving, it could make them see more popularity.

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I agree that they are insane once they hit a deathball. It’s getting there that is the problem.