Considering the impact that RBW is making on the community and the esports, would you play more if a ranked empire wars mode is included in the official ladders (with some map pool rotation and so on)
Do you think it will have a positive balance in the present (and future) number of players looking for play and boost their ELO?
Honestly, I think it can do no harm but potentially can bring a lot of good news, meta and action to our community.
Also, if we do want this, as the developers are always up to date and reading most of the stuff here and there, we just have to let them know what is needed for the players
It would be the same as the DM ladder, something that the majority would not use, that style has no real future, it suits red bull events in order to skip the boring dark age, but random map players use that time to read the map and prepare their strat, empires wars same as dm is just attack with mobility and raid, you skip an essential part of the real time strategy thingy we like.
Instead of adding new ladders that wont be really active, same like dm ladder, devs should fix the most active ladder, the team game ladder which has more than 1k points of inflation, beyond 2.6k is about how hard you stack and how many games do you play.
I agree with SouMexican that a separate Empire Wars ladder would be largely inactive like the DM one. However, that is not to say that Empire Wars has to stay out of the ranked scene entirely. For instance, it could be fun to have a ladder that resets and has different content every month. One month it would be Empire Wars, the next it would be all closed maps, or all water maps, or nomad only, or defend the wonder, etc.
What do you think of the idea of having no separate ladders, but instead have all game modes in the same ladder? You could have one or two Death Match and Empire Wars maps in the ranked map pool that players could ban if they wish. There could be a monthly (or biweekly) rotation of other game modes like Regicide, Control the Monument etc. as well. Would keep things interesting. The majority of the maps would still be RM so that players can ban special game modes if they donât like them.
different map modes requires different skill. Being a top level DM players dont mean you are also top level for Regicide. Elo is used to match players of equal skill against eachother. With just one ladder, the matches became worse.
I dont think people need to be forced on other game modes. If they dont like those, they dont have to use their bans. This will mean less control about the maps in the map pool for RM games. As result people just Alt + F4 if the get into a match they dont like.
Edit: No idea what is wrong with the quoting feature.
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I dont think that will work.
different map modes requires different skill. Being a top level DM players dont mean you are also top level for Regicide. Elo is used to match players of equal skill against eachother. With just one ladder, the matches became worse.[/quote]
And Arabia requires different skills than Black Forest. This problem already exists in the current ladder. I think the reason RM and DM are separated and not different maps is purely a historical convention.
Well, yes, itâs a tradeoff between offering a variety of maps/game modes, having quick matchmaking, and having players enjoy the matches they get. I do think having just one rotating game mode in the standard poule would make the game more interesting to a lot of players, though.
Empire wars could have a place in the ranked queue is there was a âwonky funâ ladder, with more varied and less predictable map types. There are a lot of strange and interesting settings which could find their place in such a ladder.
There might also be less resistance to putting empire wars into a ranked map rotation if there were separate ladders for Arabia, arena and co.