What New Cultures Do You Think Should Be In AoM (Poll)

i think that too, but a problem i have realized, would the military tech tree be based off of chariots and elephants? as Egyptians are already filling that niche. another thing would be the question of Egyptian elephants vs. Indian elephants, like in AoE2 we could have the war elephant be stronger (thus we won’t pry away its title), and the Indian elephant cheaper, but that may raise some issues as Indian elephants are so key to their military that even when proven inefficient they were still used time and time again, one of the reasons being that they were part of culture, and with AoM being based on culture, the decision becomes harder.

Everybody has foot units if that is not an issue having a civi with elephants chariots foot man and cavalry dosent affect the game much.the myth units will anyway differ so its not a big deal.

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Well, it is easy:
-Elephant Archer
-Elephant-riding Hero (you have only one, but he gets stronger with Age Ups)
-Melee Chariot with splash attack
-Outrider scout and light Cavalry unit
-Infantry Swordsmen that is good against and Archers
-Infantry Clubman that is good against Infantry
-Javelin Thrower that is good against against Cavalry
-Chakram Thrower that is good against Siege Weapons and massed Infantry
-Fire-Bowman that is actually a Siege unit
-Flail Elephant as a Battering Ram

The only units that are a bit repetitive are the Melee Chariot (Chinese have one too, but it is poorly designed) and the Swordsman that is close to the Huskarl and Hyspaspist.

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Roman? No, too similar to Greek. Yes to Aztec and Hindu. Celtic/Slavic how would they differ from Norse? I rather choose Slavic than Celtic.

Celtic is the most different mythology in all of Europe. Slavic mythology actually has a lot of Celtic elements, like vengeful river and swamp spirits, a keeper of teh forests, and so on.

Celtic is more important than Slavic. It is actually the Father-Myth to many european mythologies, including Norse, Germanic and Slavic.

If anything, Slavic myth would be the closest to Norse myth. Far more identical than Celtic would be.

Slavic names are cooler though. Baba yaga, Chernobog and Svarog come into mind but with Celtic really no idea. 11

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Just because you have no idea, does not mean there is not a wealth of information.
Also, be honest, you only want Slavic mythology in because you are a Slav, not because it would be better.

All mythologies in Europe are based on Celtic and Greek mythologies.

My friend, I’m of East Asian descent. If there’s one mythology that I would like to be added in game that would be definitely Japanese including Izanagi to Susanoo, etc. However, I think it might overlap with the Chinese Myth so I didn’t suggest it. Yes I did some research of Celtic Mythology but I’m just saying Slavic figures are easier to digest or remember especially when it comes to important figures, etc. Anyways, I’m open to see druids in-game :slight_smile:

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Slavs split into multiple groups, up by Denmark they mixed culture with Norse while further south it mixed with the east but to answer the real question the Norse practiced a hybrid version of Slavic beliefs. Slavic beliefs are very ancient very much more so than the Danes.

A few videos - hard to find in English …

Lord of the All Knowing X D

The Slavic Faith is closest to the Balts. They come together from the Balto-Slavs.

Interestingly, Slavic mythology shares many features with Vedic mythology.

Are they not alike?

Saying that the Slavic mythology is very similar to the Norse mythology is evidence of not knowing it. It has many things in common with Hindu mythology. Do Nords or Celts also have?

Interestingly, the Slavs have a similar blood group to the Brahmins (in Hinduism, a member of the highest varna: the priestly class).

It has many things in common with Hindu mythology. Do Nords or Celts also have?

Interestingly, the Slavs have a similar blood group to the Brahmins (in Hinduism a member of the highest varna: the priestly class) - Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA).

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Wow I am very happy. I did not think that anyone outside Eastern Europe was interested in the peoples inhabiting it.

Don’t listen to the fact that Slavic mythology is a copy of Celtic mythology - this is not true, Norse is the same as Celtic.

Slavic mythology has the most in common with Vedic mythology.

As is known, Poles belong to the Slavic peoples, and the Slavic peoples, in turn, belong to the great family of Indo-Europeans. We have a common origin and we speak similar languages, or actually we did, because in thousands of years peoples began to wander in different directions and their languages ​​began to develop separately. Today we will not understand an Englishman, a Portuguese, an Iranian or an Indian from North India, and yet they speak languages ​​belonging to the Indo-European family. According to one theory, the Indo-Europeans initially inhabited the steppes north of the Black Sea, or the western part of Asia. It was from there that the expansion to Western Europe began. Around the third millennium, there was a disintegration into many ethnic groups. They distinguished themselves, inter alia, Celts, Teutons and Romanesque peoples. The Slavs and Balts (today’s Latvians and Lithuanians) left for Europe at the latest. Some of the peoples, on the other hand, went to the south of Asia, where they created Persia and conquered the indigenous people of the Dravidians in the northern Indian subcontinent. They were the so-called Aryans. The word “arya” in Sanskrit means “noble.” It is today thanks to them that Hindus from the north of the country, Afghans, Pakistanis and Iranians speak Indo-European languages. There is, however, a theory that says that the Aryans, Slavs and Balts used to belong to the same peoples within the Indo-European peoples, but split up in two different directions.

What evidence is there for this? The ancient culture of the Slavs and the culture of ancient India shared common features. You can see it, among others in religion. The Slavs worshiped the god Świętowit, who had four faces, as did the Hindu creator of the world - Brahma. In the Polabian Slavs there was the goddess Siwa (also known as Żywia), while in the Hindus - the god Shiva. Ancient literary works also testify to the similarity of the two religions. In Bulgaria and Russia there are so-called “Books of Koljada” and “Slavic Vedas” in which you can find stories about Krishna and Vishni. They are remarkably similar to Krishna and Vishnu known in Indian mythology. Also, the holy books of Hinduism - the Vedas - mean “wiedza” knowledge in Polish, which also proves the similarity of languages. In Russia, in the town of Staraya Maina, a figurine of Vishnu, which probably dates from the 7th-10th centuries, has also been found recently. There are also suspicions that some names appearing in Poland, such as Wiśniewski, Wiszniewski, Siwiec, Siwiecki or Kalinowski, derive from the names of deities that are worshiped in Hinduism today (Vishnu, Siwa and Kali).

We also find many similarities in the languages. Despite the fact that Sanskrit and the languages ​​of the Slavs and Balts developed over many years in complete isolation, some words are almost identical. What are these words? They are mainly related to religion, philosophy, family, man and nature, eg “bhaga” means “bóg - god”, “nabhas” means “niebo - heaven”, “dam” means “dom - home”, “mati” is matka - mother, “ogni” - ogień " fire “,” nasa "- nos " nose “,” para veda means prawda - truth “or” pra wiedza - primeval knowledge ". Surely everyone has heard about Buddha - the founder of Buddhism. Buddha can be associated with the word “budzić - awake” and rightly so, because it means “przebudzony - awake”. And where does the name of the highest mountains in the world, the Himalayas, come from? “Hima” in Sanskrit means “zima -winter” and “śnieg - snow” in Polish, and “alaja” means “leżący - lying” or “siedziba - seat”. The name of the mountains can therefore be translated as “siedziba śniegu - seat of snow” or “siedziba zimy - seat of winter”. What do Sanskrit numerals sound like? A Pole will understand almost all:

jeden (one) - eka

dwa (two) - dwi

trzy (three) - tri

cztery (four) - chatur

pięć (five) - panczan

One of the historical lands that is today on the Pakistani-Indian border is called Punjab (in Hindi it is pronounced “pajab”). The word means “Pięciorzecze - Pentateuch” and is derived from the word “pancz” meaning “pięć - five” and “ab” - woda - water. Anyone more familiar with the symbols of the ancient Slavs and Hindus must have heard of the swastika. Today, the swastika is most often associated with the sign of the Nazis. The German Nazi party, NSDAP, completely changed the original meaning of the ancient symbol, and yet it is one of the symbols of the Aryans. In Sanskrit, the word “swastika” means “bringing good luck.” It is a symbol that is actually known in many cultures and religions around the world. The swastika was also a symbol of Poland. It can be found on denarii - the coins of Mieszko I and Bolesław I the Brave, who were the first rulers of Poland, as well as on the uniforms of soldiers of the Polish Army. The latest genetic research also proves the common origin of Hindus and Slavs. The haplogroup R1a1 is a group of genes characteristic of the inhabitants of Central and Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Iran and North India.

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good ideas, not sure about the Greek mercenary because the Egyptians already have a mercenary unit. I also think there should be an all purpose melee elephant, but that wasn’t in AoE2 so i can’t really hope for too much. Another thing you mentioned was heroes, i’m not sure how that might work uniquely for hindus.

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There is no Greek Mercenary.
What I said was that the Swordsman as an anti-Archer unit, is a copy of the Greek Hypaspist and the Norse Huskarl.
Anti-Archer Swordsmen are present in 2 civs already, so I though the Mauryans/Hindus should have it too.

My idea is taht you pick in the Archaic Age, and then it becomes stronger with each Age Up, until you get to the Mythic Age.

in the image i thought i saw a greek mercenary?
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The image is just for reference. I did not make it.

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good idea,
my idea was a bit like greeks, so might not be as good.
i was thinking each go you pick incarnates into the earth as a hero? i’m pretty sure that’s the story being Krishna an Rama and they’re prominent.

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Greeks just get 4 Heroes, one with each Age.
You could have the incarnates, but then it would be another multi-hero civ, and we have 4 of those, while there is just 1 single-hero civ (Egyptians), and I though it would be cool to have another spin on the single-hero system.

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you’re right, so that means it only has to apply to the major god, hindu heroes are anyways very powerful in my opinion, so it wouldn’t be inaccurate to buff the hero enough to compensate.

however, i think the single hero aspect would fit better with a civ like aztecs and maori then hindus. but that’s just my opinion.

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An Hindu civilization would be absolutely amazing! It would have the best pantheon ever!

Aztecs are also interesting, but I fear they will be a nightmare to play against for some reason lol

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The only issue with Aztecs is that they are Medieval, while all other civs are msotly from Antiquity (except Chinese, but I think they need a massive rework).

I would prefer Olmecs or Mayans, which would be more in line with the other civs.

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i dont think time period applies to this game, especially with new world civs since they have the cavalry disadvantage, but i see your point

i would still prefer Aztecs as they are more popular, and at the end of the day, marketing is the soul of every game’s design

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