What will be the guesses for the next balance patch of AOE1 DE

2020 is in its final moments now and AOE1 DE by far only received 1 balance patch, which is great since it fixed all of the weakest civs and in some way nerfed the top tier ones, but still some tweak could be done here for units and civ bonuses:

Let me start:

Melee Elephants trample damage blast radius and damage reduced.
Clubmen Line +1 LOS
Swordsmen line cost increased by +5 Food and 5 Gold

Give them Slingers and with bonus like firing 25% faster.

Replace that farm bonus to: Domestication, Plow and Irrigation upgrades for free
Extra range bonus straggered to +1 in Bronze and +2 In Iron Age and then affects all archers.

Elephant speed bonus increased to 30%
Trirreme firing bonus applies to scout ship and war galley
New Bonus: Goverment center technologies cost -40%

Lose Scythe Chariot
Receive War Elephant.

New Bonus: Chariot Units move 10% faster.

No longer get access to the Heavy Horse Archer
Receive Elephant Archer
The extra PA bonus of Academy units now includes Elephant Units.

I would suggest that Assyria should get +20-25% siege movement speed since they were known for having good siegecraft.

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Did Romans ever use war Elefants? If yes do you have a link, would like to read about it.

If anything romans should get better towers at least guard tower. I think we have already too many elephant civilizations. Elephants in aoe1 are far more powerful than elephants in aoe2. Most of the time they fought against elephants but I think they used them maybe as auxilery units, because they have these units even in Rome Total War 2.


Do the Persians really require more buffs? I didn’t play them since the july update, but they got already major buffs in two updates (which were good imo)- one at release resp. already in the UPatch (in comparison to the original AoE 1 without UPatch) and in july.

Why should the romans lose scythe and get war elephant? You can argue, that scythe (and chariot) isn’t historical, because they only used them in chariot races, but war elephants don’t really make sense either, because rome never used them in noteworthy ways and numbers. So Romans should just keep the scythe or they have to receive something completely different.

Please no buffs for slingers. I don’t want players being encouraged to play these infinite tool age wars in 1vs1. The july patch gladly did changes in the right direction to make it less viable.


There are several good ideas there, and others that I didn’t like so much.
But I do agree that there should be an update before the end of the year.

They already have Slingers. A bonus for Slingers is dangerous, as it would put them at a great advantage in Tool. It could work if this bonus starts from Bronze.


I think a 40% reduction is a lot, I would prefer 20-25. The others are fine.

It is fine that they do not have chariots, but add elephants NOT. It is what differentiates Romans from Carthaginians or Macedonians.
Perhaps historically Rome rarely used elephants, but they weren’t regular.
I would prefer something related to infantry as a new bonus, as an attack bonus for swordsmen if a centurion accompanies them.

Totally agree.

Don’t give the Archer Elephant, having only ele mele is what makes them different. The other points are fine.