How about the Omani Empire? They were on the Arabian peninsula, east coast of Africa, controlled Zanzibar and even had taken some of Persia’s land. They had interactions with the British, Portuguese, Persia, Ottoman (who briefly taken their capital) well as sending the first Arab emissary to the USA in the 19th century. Home City would be Muscat which they managed to remove the the Portuguese from.
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Yes, AoM DE in October and some new civ for AoE 3 DE in December…
Yes, it has all the unique units of the Ottomans of aoe 3 (Galleys, Janissaries, Spahis, Great Bombards and also the Mether which is new in AoE 4)
Of course, I always mention it…
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Netherlands was be a part of HRE until to 1648 (Westphalian Peace). Some people in this forum consider the German civilization to represent all Germans and also as representations of the Holy Roman Empire. By that logic there should be no Dutch civilization in the game.
It is normal for civilizations to overlap. When civilizations died, new ones were born in their place. Empires divide territories among themselves.
Arabians civilization would be a mix of the Mamelukes, Moors, Omani and also other Arabs. This civilization represented the Arabian Peninsula and North Africa. Cairo could be the Home City for Arabians civ.
Portuguese rework when Brazil comes out, Ottoman rework here will come Persia.
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And a rework of Germans civ when the Prussians civ will be added. Germans civ could become an Austrians civ.
Danes & Prussians - Kings of the Baltic DLC
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But with that perspective with the Arabian peninsula, you may as well just make a ‘Europe’ civ instead of all these seperate Euro civs. I think it’s not a positive thing to make a civ just a region in the case of North Africa and Arabia. You’re also missing all the wealth and nuances that individual civs bring.
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- Berbers & Moroccans - free for African Royals DLC owners
- Tatars - free for all
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But the civ isn’t called HRE but German and the AI leader is Fredrick II not any of HRE Emperor.
The German civ is mostly Prussian with few Austrian flavors thrown in here and there.
I don’t think Arabic civ is possible since they haven’t been a thing since Middle Ages and will not be a thing till end of WWI.
Also Ottomans kept Egypt until Muhammad Ali Pasha was a thing. so no Ottomans would have owned Cario and Cario has been Ottoman city.
That is like having Mongalia civ when Qing China is a thing or having a Kiev Rus as a civ when Russia is a thing.
what is next have a Papal State as a civ when Italy is a thing now?
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That excludes most of Arabia…
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Portuguese if the next dlc is Brazil, Indians if the next dlc is Persia and Oman…
Yes, during the period of aoe 3 in the Arabic peninsula you had the Emirates of Diriyah (First Saudi State) and the Yemeni Imamate
The maximum limits reached by the first Saudi state during the reign of Saud bin Abdulaziz Al Saud in the year 1814.
well they controlled key cities that are important to Muslim people. like holy city of mecca
Of course, that’s why they can be interesting for an Arabic dlc… after putting Persia and Oman, they can put Arabia and mix both kingdoms or directly mix it with Oman also and with that you represent the entire Arabic peninsula…
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Here’s hoping for India Split to Maratha and Mughal.
A Maratha Persia DLC will be awesome combination IMO.
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Oh yes, a proper split India with Marathas and Mughal would be awesome (with Mysore and their rockets being available to both!).
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I don’t think they divide them (at least not in the short term)… I think they will put cards like “Maratha Confederation” and “Hetkari musketeers” in fortresses age (allows you to create dacoits and musketeers in the barracks and the Marathan catamaran in the docks without need to construct any TP) or also a native civ as a native Maratha, which allows you to create the Bargir (melee cavalry) and the Mavales (melee and ranged foot soldier)…
They can also put a “Rockets of Mysore” infinite card for the Indians in industrial age…
In short they would have 4 new units on their roster:dacoit and catamaran of the Maratha and the musketeers and the Congreve rockets renamed as Mysore Rockets of the British…
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Then why divide Ottomans? Put in Yemeni Arquebush and Persian Qizilbash cards.
Why divide USA from British? Why divide Mexico from Spain and Aztec? Why why why?
Why Maratha and Mughal are same thing but others are not?
Why make so many civs just make one civ with cards from different areas. Sounds cool?
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Dividing Marathas from Mughals is not difficult at all. In fact one may not even need to “divide” because the Indian civ is basically Mughals (just like the German civ is basically HRE).
Reskin a few units and cards for the old civ then design a new civ. And it is done.
EDIT: the real problem is the peak Maratha and Mughal territory largely overlap. So assigning wonders would be tricky.
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Exactly.
Besides Maratha had an empire, had a decent navy (of Gurab warships and Gallivat boats - not all western ones!) and should be more than just Marathan Thuggee, Decoit (all bandits…), Marathan Catamaran and Old Doug the Orangutan.
They had Karnataki musketeers, lots of mortars, cannons and howitzers, spearmen, swordsmen and many types of Light Horsemen - lots of unit choice!